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Old 05-08-2012, 06:20 AM   #31 (permalink)
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After lurking on this forum for a year, I created this account to say this. As a die hard umass fan, having attended every home game and tournament game in the past 7 years and having followed the team long prior, I have never been more excited by the direction Of the program. After ford left I was unsure about the future of the team, however CURRENTLY I am feeling great about this group and the future.

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There are a handful of posters who do NOT represent what a level headed, thinking fan is thinking. We are dealing with fanboys and yahoos, and I would hate to have people lump the Umass community in with them when having in depth hoop talk.

GO UMASS! Ignore the crazies.
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so you are saying you don't think Umass can win the Championship in 2013-2014 season? The team is going to be stacked with talent and senior leaders. they will be one of the teams in contention for the title that season no doubt in my mind.
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When UMass finishes 15-18 I am sure you will have a great excuse.
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Everyone wants the Xavier/Dayton pissing matches to stop, here's your chance.....UMass or Dayton who is the A10 preseason favorite?
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Everyone wants the Xavier/Dayton pissing matches to stop, here's your chance.....UMass or Dayton who is the A10 preseason favorite?
A10 preseason favorite = UMass

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Just as it is with Dayton and Muddy, we own z8 whether we like it or not. If he is a fake, he wil get tired and go away, if he really is our Muddy, we have to just talk around him and do our best to offset his lunacy.


Umass will be better next year - but I am not even sure what that means yet. As I understand all of these conference changes, the A-14 is still exactly what it was last year. That said, Xavier looks like it may be a little down from their norm for a year, St Joe's and St Louis look to be as good or better and I hope that Umass is in the mix for the top spot. Honestly, I am not sure what to make of Temple next year - not yet anyway.

As of today - I think St Joe's will be the class of the league with Umass and St Louis a close second.
I assure I am not a fake. Having been a fan my entire life that is very insulting that you would even suggest that.

Is there a problem with someone being realistic and positive at the same time? When making predictions you don't always have to be pessimistic to prove how much of a "knowledgeable" "realist" you are. The sky is the limit for this team next year. With an older Chaz Williams surrounded by all of this talent and heart on the team, it would have to take a very, very good team to stop us. What we lacked last year was beef in the paint, getting abused over and over by big physical teams. We now have that beef with Lalanne and Sampson Carter coming back. We can also go 3 guards if we need to now because of Laguerre, who also pushes Riley to the bench, which is another positive. With the talent, experience, and refuse to lose attitude that this team has, I will be utterly shocked if we don't go to the NCAAT. This team has at least Sweet 16 potential next year, and I wouldn't be shocked to see them go to the Final Four. Beyond that would surprise me.

As for your A-10 predictions. Xavier will reload as always and be near the top of the league. Temple will be a joke next year, with no depth, finishing likely 6th or lower. Let's slow down with declaring St. Joes the best team in the A-10. They will be young still, and that youth showed at the end of last season when they were very unimpressive. They should contend near the top though. The only other team that will compete with UMass at the top is St. Louis. Their team scares me.
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I assure I am not a fake. Having been a fan my entire life that is very insulting that you would even suggest that.

Is there a problem with someone being realistic and positive at the same time? When making predictions you don't always have to be pessimistic to prove how much of a "knowledgeable" "realist" you are. The sky is the limit for this team next year. With an older Chaz Williams surrounded by all of this talent and heart on the team, it would have to take a very, very good team to stop us. What we lacked last year was beef in the paint, getting abused over and over by big physical teams. We now have that beef with Lalanne and Sampson Carter coming back. We can also go 3 guards if we need to now because of Laguerre, who also pushes Riley to the bench, which is another positive. With the talent, experience, and refuse to lose attitude that this team has, I will be utterly shocked if we don't go to the NCAAT. This team has at least Sweet 16 potential next year, and I wouldn't be shocked to see them go to the Final Four. Beyond that would surprise me.

As for your A-10 predictions. Xavier will reload as always and be near the top of the league. Temple will be a joke next year, with no depth, finishing likely 6th or lower. Let's slow down with declaring St. Joes the best team in the A-10. They will be young still, and that youth showed at the end of last season when they were very unimpressive. They should contend near the top though. The only other team that will compete with UMass at the top is St. Louis. Their team scares me.

I think calling for an "NCAA Championship" is not realistic. A-10 Champs - sure, I can get on board with that even for this coming year. They have NO all-americans, and as of right now, NO NBA prospects - that equals NO NCAA Championship.

Sampson Carter is not "BEEF" he is a swingman at best with limited/inconsistent offense and plays decent defense.

I am all for being positive - don't come off like Muddy (like you are right now). You are making retarded predictions that will only make you look and sound retarded when they do not come to fruition. Let's win an A-1o championship beofre we start even thining about a Sweet 16 appearence.
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so you are saying you don't think Umass can win the Championship in 2013-2014 season? The team is going to be stacked with talent and senior leaders. they will be one of the teams in contention for the title that season no doubt in my mind.
No, no I do not. Though I agree with the rest of your sentiment. Certainly compared to what we've seen the past decade, their talent level is certainly creeping towards a very high level. I think that they will be very good, very good indeed. They will certainly have the talent to compete for the A10 title. But to say that they can win the championships is to overlook all of the great teams and dominant players that are out there right now.
While its true that everyone is 0-0 right now and anything can happen. I understand it takes a lot of very special players, and the road is more difficult than homers would like to admit. I'm looking forward to an exciting season with increased exposure now that people took a bit of notice. But until I see a season where we are in the tourney talk in earnest. I'll keep the title talk in the bedroom.

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I think calling for an "NCAA Championship" is not realistic. A-10 Champs - sure, I can get on board with that even for this coming year. They have NO all-americans, and as of right now, NO NBA prospects - that equals NO NCAA Championship.

Sampson Carter is not "BEEF" he is a swingman at best with limited/inconsistent offense and plays decent defense.

I am all for being positive - don't come off like Muddy (like you are right now). You are making retarded predictions that will only make you look and sound retarded when they do not come to fruition. Let's win an A-1o championship beofre we start even thining about a Sweet 16 appearence.
I'm not calling for a championship, but it is a realistic possibility. And Chaz Williams will be an all-american and NBA prospect. You can take that to the bank.

Sampson Carter is underappreciated on this team. He is our most solid and sure player. He consistently gets a good number of points and rebounds and does a lot of other different stuff that doesn't show up on the stat sheet. Not a flashy player, but gives us more beef and toughness to our team.
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No, no I do not. Though I agree with the rest of your sentiment. Certainly compared to what we've seen the past decade, their talent level is certainly creeping towards a very high level. I think that they will be very good, very good indeed. They will certainly have the talent to compete for the A10 title. But to say that they can win the championships is to overlook all of the great teams and dominant players that are out there right now.
While its true that everyone is 0-0 right now and anything can happen. I understand it takes a lot of very special players, and the road is more difficult than homers would like to admit. I'm looking forward to an exciting season with increased exposure now that people took a bit of notice. But until I see a season where we are in the tourney talk in earnest. I'll keep the title talk in the bedroom.

Go umass!
Ok but just want to make it clear I am not predicting a Championship this upcomming season. This upcomming season I said would be Elite Eight or Final four.

Championship Prediction was for the 2013-2014 season were alot of the stars will be senior leaders

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[QUOTE=z8-Minutemen;6833679]...The sky is the limit for this team next year. With an older Chaz Williams surrounded by all of this talent and heart on the team, it would have to take a very, very good team to stop us. What we lacked last year was beef in the paint, getting abused over and over by big physical teams...This team has at least Sweet 16 potential next year, and I wouldn't be shocked to see them go to the Final Four. Beyond that would surprise me.
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[QUOTE=z8-Minutemen;6833738]I'm not calling for a championship, but it is a realistic possibility. And Chaz Williams will be an all-american and NBA prospect. You can take that to the bank.QUOTE]

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Ok but just want to make it clear I am not predicting a Championship this upcomming season. This upcomming season I said would be Elite Eight or Final four.

Championship Prediction was for the 2013-2014 season were alot of the stars will be senior leaders

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Are they giving out free crack up in Amherst? This is insane! Will UMass be improved? Yes they will. Elite Eight or Final Four? No way in hell.

And z8, was La Salle a "big physical team"? Nope, not in the least, but we sure as hell abused you anyways. Get real guys.
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Everyone wants the Xavier/Dayton pissing matches to stop, here's your chance.....UMass or Dayton who is the A10 preseason favorite?
Our upstate NY Overlords may have something to say about that.
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[QUOTE=njlsufan;6833869][QUOTE=z8-Minutemen;6833679]...The sky is the limit for this team next year. With an older Chaz Williams surrounded by all of this talent and heart on the team, it would have to take a very, very good team to stop us. What we lacked last year was beef in the paint, getting abused over and over by big physical teams...This team has at least Sweet 16 potential next year, and I wouldn't be shocked to see them go to the Final Four. Beyond that would surprise me.
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I'm not calling for a championship, but it is a realistic possibility. And Chaz Williams will be an all-american and NBA prospect. You can take that to the bank.QUOTE]



Are they giving out free crack up in Amherst? This is insane! Will UMass be improved? Yes they will. Elite Eight or Final Four? No way in hell.

And z8, was La Salle a "big physical team"? Nope, not in the least, but we sure as hell abused you anyways. Get real guys.
First of all, you ignored the rest of my quote where I mentioned how we can now employ a reliable 3 guard lineup with good players. You should have inferred that I was talking about our other weakness last year, guard oriented teams like La Salle. The reading comprehension on this board is top notch!

Secondly, how many times do I have to stress that this is a realistic P-O-S-S-I-B-I-L-I-T-Y. I'm not saying that it will happen for sure, but I do like our chances. If and when it does happen, believe me, I will have a lot of fun bringing up this little thread again and shoving it in all of your faces.
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[QUOTE=njlsufan;6833869][QUOTE=z8-Minutemen;6833679]...The sky is the limit for this team next year. With an older Chaz Williams surrounded by all of this talent and heart on the team, it would have to take a very, very good team to stop us. What we lacked last year was beef in the paint, getting abused over and over by big physical teams...This team has at least Sweet 16 potential next year, and I wouldn't be shocked to see them go to the Final Four. Beyond that would surprise me.
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I'm not calling for a championship, but it is a realistic possibility. And Chaz Williams will be an all-american and NBA prospect. You can take that to the bank.QUOTE]



Are they giving out free crack up in Amherst? This is insane! Will UMass be improved? Yes they will. Elite Eight or Final Four? No way in hell.

And z8, was La Salle a "big physical team"? Nope, not in the least, but we sure as hell abused you anyways. Get real guys.
First of all, you ignored the rest of my quote where I mentioned how we can now employ a reliable 3 guard lineup with good players. You should have inferred that I was talking about our other weakness last year, guard oriented teams like La Salle. The reading comprehension on this board is top notch!

Secondly, how many times do I have to stress that this is a realistic P-O-S-S-I-B-I-L-I-T-Y. I'm not saying that it will happen for sure, but I do like our chances. If and when it does happen, believe me, I will have a lot of fun bringing up this little thread again and shoving it in all of your faces.
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I suppose that it is a possibility in the sense that there is a basketball championship that someone will win and UMass has a basketball team.
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