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Old 05-11-2012, 06:49 AM   #91 (permalink)
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Calipari is sleeze.Two vacated final fours at two programs. Hold the victim card please.
And it is only a matter of time before this championship with Kentucky is vacated. The NCAA and NBA need to work together to eliminate slime-ball coaches like Calipari. Same goes with College Football and the NFL - the scum bag USC coach should have never been allowed to make millions with the Seahawks.

It is good to know that the A10 coaches, for the most part, are not slime-balls.
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I wouldn't trade what I watched in Amherst from 1989 to 1996 for anything (Basketball related). If any of your teams had that same run with a similar outcome and then came to the conclusion that it wasn't worth it - you would be lying; and you CAN'T make that assertion until you have lived it yourself - which most of you have not.
I agree with you w/ one exception, I'd trade it for the same performance without the sanctions. Think about it, you would not even be having this conversation had it worked out that way.
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Old 05-11-2012, 07:09 AM   #93 (permalink)
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I'd trade it for the same performance without the sanctions.
That wasn't the offer - and you would still take it.
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And it is only a matter of time before this championship with Kentucky is vacated. The NCAA and NBA need to work together to eliminate slime-ball coaches like Calipari. Same goes with College Football and the NFL - the scum bag USC coach should have never been allowed to make millions with the Seahawks. If this is what is going to keep you up at night, you may as well stop following organized sports.

It is good to know that the A10 coaches, for the most part, are not slime-balls. Really? How do you know that for sure?
Quite frankly Steve, you are just bitter because no coach worth having is willing to move to wherever LaSalle is located to coach your crappy team. Coaches that really know how to play "the game" eventually end up in BCS schools; and the ones that don't end up at LaSalle.
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That wasn't the offer - and you would still take it.
I should have put a wink at the end b/c I was mostly kidding, but it was the offer. You said you would not trade it for anything basketball related and given that the sanctions (for lack of a better word) were basketball related, I think they can be included. I was kiddingly stating the obvious or at least I think it's obvious, the best scenario would be those years minus the sanctions.

And of course I would still take it, I said as much when I said I agree with you.
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Re: NCAA Championship for Umass in 2013-2014?

Dismissing bad behavior by saying "everyone is doing it" is weak and pathetic. Calipari got caught. I'll wait for other coaches to get caught before I criticize them.
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Dismissing bad behavior by saying "everyone is doing it" is weak and pathetic. Calipari got caught. I'll wait for other coaches to get caught before I criticize them.
Fair enough - but if Richmond hired him right now are you staying or going?
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Re: NCAA Championship for Umass in 2013-2014?

Since I know how much Xavier would like to have a final four banner hanging at Cintas, and this is what we are working hard to achieve, I'm curious about UMass. When they vacate your appearance do they still let you have the banner flying?
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When they vacate your appearance do they still let you have the banner flying?
I'm not sure if they let us, but it is still hanging in our building.

I also know that I was there for that Kentucky game - Calapari was on the bench, the uniforms even said "Umass" on them and everything..... I know my memory is starting to go, but I am pretty sure that is what I saw?
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Re: NCAA Championship for Umass in 2013-2014?

Look - I am not trying to defend Calapari as much as I am trying to condemn the whole NCAA governance model. The bottom line is that they have truckloads and truckloads of money at stake here, and because of that they have to tread lightly on those silly rules they have written in pencil on cocktail napkins.....

If they wanted to put some teeth into this, coaches would start losing games in big chunks, and they would not be able to hold schools hostage for a long term contract, only to jump for more money in two years, leaving the players they recruited stuck with the next liar/schmuck to start the process all over again.

Did Calapari look the other way when Marcus was wearing a gold chain the size of a bridge cable - yea probably. I really don't think he knew everything though. Nobody really does except Marcus and whoever he took whatever from. A coach can live with a player and he still can't control every second of each kids life. I am sure he does not condone gifts and I am sure he tells every player he has coached to stay away from it - it is still going to happen.

EVERY program has schidt going on - EVERY ONE including Dayton, and Richmond, and X and so on.... Like I said to Explorer Steve - if this kind of stuff is what is going to keep you up at night, find some other thing to root for besides college basketball and football.
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Re: NCAA Championship for Umass in 2013-2014?

Can we please get back to the FUTURE UMass national championship discussion? There are plenty of Calipari-bashing threads out there. No need to turn this into another one. You're totally killing the good buzz this thread was giving me.
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Can we please get back to the FUTURE UMass national championship discussion? There are plenty of Calipari-bashing threads out there. No need to turn this into another one. You're totally killing the good buzz this thread was giving me.
Amen to that. We need to get back to the issue at hand.

Just ignore those idiots. They're just jealous because their team has never reached a Final Four (which we will most definitely do again), no matter what it took to get there. Sure, you can erase that team from the record books, but you can't erase that team from the collective memory of the general public. This isn't North Korea we're talking about here... Whatever, haters gon' hate.
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Dismissing bad behavior by saying "everyone is doing it" is weak and pathetic. Calipari got caught. I'll wait for other coaches to get caught before I criticize them.
look up duke and coach k, also played an ineligible player for an entire season and yet, curiously wasn't given the same punishment as calipari. so honestly, the vacating of these things is administered so randomly that they lose their legitimacy. look at auburn football, same thing as the camby situation yet nothing. so honestly, lets cut the shit over who the ncaa decides is dirty.

btw i always laugh at the uconn fans who troll umasshoops.com about the 96 vacated final four, their posteason run was also vacated that year and no one knows it because they lost early and nobody cared.
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Re: NCAA Championship for Umass in 2013-2014?

One of the biggest problems is choosing whether to have the parade in Boston or Amherst, or perhaps Springfield. This should be decided as soon as possible, so they can start planning the route in advance.

Another idea would be to copy what the Patriots did, and tour all the New England states. That way Rhode Island, New Hampshire, Vermont and Maine can also see what the championship trophy looks like, and Connecticut can see what one looks like without cheating. But maybe we should hold off on that until the second championship.
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One of the biggest problems is choosing whether to have the parade in Boston or Amherst, or perhaps Springfield. This should be decided as soon as possible, so they can start planning the route in advance.

Another idea would be to copy what the Patriots did, and tour all the New England states. That way Rhode Island, New Hampshire, Vermont and Maine can also see what the championship trophy looks like, and Connecticut can see what one looks like without cheating. But maybe we should hold off on that until the second championship.
Oh great, a third zidiot. One or all of these guys are faux UMass fans.
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