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Old 05-18-2012, 08:38 AM   #136 (permalink)
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Re: Who should replace UMass - Boston U or Siena?

Bill Russell - you do realize you absolute freaking moron that the whole discussion is based upon when UMass leaves. The statement was based on the premise that the addition of VCU and Butler confirms a southward and westward expansion of the A10 which provides a very large incentive for UMass to leave. Getting to your pissant school has always been a problem for UMass. SBU has had two good year of basketball in thirty odd years of membership. Until they did away with it, your school was perennially at or near the bottom of the Comnmsioner's Cup standings. Your school belongs in the Metro Atlantic.
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Old 05-18-2012, 08:49 AM   #137 (permalink)
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Yes '87, your argument is based on when or if UMass leaves the conference. But, the argument that Bonas is too far or too costly to get to doesn't fly. And, not all of the non-revenue sports play complete schedules against all other A-10 schools anyway.

There, how's that? Not even any name calling.
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Re: Who should replace UMass - Boston U or Siena?

to Olean

Canisius 1 hour 40 minutes
Iona 5 hours 54 minutes
Fairfield 6 hours 25 minutes
Loyola 5 hours 35 minutes
Manhattan 5 hours 52 minutes
Marist 5 hours 30 minutes
Niagara 1 hour 54 minutes
Rider 5 hours 53 minutes
Saint Peters 5 hours 45 minutes
Siena 4 hours 56 minutes

Gee, which schools does SBU have more in common with, the Metro Atlantic or the A10?
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Bill Russell - you do realize you absolute freaking moron that the whole discussion is based upon when UMass leaves. The statement was based on the premise that the addition of VCU and Butler confirms a southward and westward expansion of the A10 which provides a very large incentive for UMass to leave. Getting to your pissant school has always been a problem for UMass. SBU has had two good year of basketball in thirty odd years of membership. Until they did away with it, your school was perennially at or near the bottom of the Comnmsioner's Cup standings. Your school belongs in the Metro Atlantic.
For the teams in the west, SBU is easier to get to by car than RI, NYC, Philly, & DC. It's not in freaking Siberia.

As far as the idiotic MAAC statement goes, I repeat my assertion that only on the A10 board will you find somebody who advocates the expulsion of the defending conference champions.
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Loyola 5 hours 35 minutes
Manhattan 5 hours 52 minutes
Marist 5 hours 30 minutes
Niagara 1 hour 54 minutes
Rider 5 hours 53 minutes
Saint Peters 5 hours 45 minutes
Siena 4 hours 56 minutes

Gee, which schools does SBU have more in common with, the Metro Atlantic or the A10?
Wow! You forgot Pitt and Syracuse which are both within 3 1/2 hours.

SBU To the ACC!!!!!!!!
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Old 05-18-2012, 09:15 AM   #141 (permalink)
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Re: Who should replace UMass - Boston U or Siena?

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Canisius 1 hour 40 minutes
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Fairfield 6 hours 25 minutes
Loyola 5 hours 35 minutes
Manhattan 5 hours 52 minutes
Marist 5 hours 30 minutes
Niagara 1 hour 54 minutes
Rider 5 hours 53 minutes
Saint Peters 5 hours 45 minutes
Siena 4 hours 56 minutes

Gee, which schools does SBU have more in common with, the Metro Atlantic or the A10?
We could do this all day with just about any program in the league (I'll even withhold from calling you a moron). UMass is closer to many of the America East and NEC schools. They should join one of those leagues. God, let it be. Bona, regardless of your axe to grind against it, isn't joining the damn MAAC. This is a waste of time.
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Old 05-18-2012, 09:23 AM   #142 (permalink)
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Canisius 1 hour 40 minutes
Iona 5 hours 54 minutes
Fairfield 6 hours 25 minutes
Loyola 5 hours 35 minutes
Manhattan 5 hours 52 minutes
Marist 5 hours 30 minutes
Niagara 1 hour 54 minutes
Rider 5 hours 53 minutes
Saint Peters 5 hours 45 minutes
Siena 4 hours 56 minutes

Gee, which schools does SBU have more in common with, the Metro Atlantic or the A10?
Come on '87. You can take most schools in the A-10 and lump them with other nearby schools or other nearby conferences and say that they should join up with them in a conference. Xavier, Dayton, and Butler to the Horizon, St. Louis to the MVC, GW and Richmond to the CAA or Southern, or why not St. Joe's and LaSalle to the MAAC, UMass and Rhody to the Northeast or America East? I'm sure that there are probably more options. But, I am impressed by all of the research you have done in looking out for the well-being of our beloved Bonnies.
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Re: Who should replace UMass - Boston U or Siena?

As a matter of fact - my bet is that barring an unlikely invitation to the ACC, UMass will be playing most of its sports with URI in a conference much like the old Yankee Conference - with UNH, UVM and Maine. I have no axe to grind - you can search the archives of this site and will never find a post of mine critical of SBU until this thread. That doesn't change the fact that SBU doesn't, nor ever has, compete well in the A10.
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That doesn't change the fact that SBU doesn't, nor ever has, compete well in the A10.
Interesting statement to make about the defending conference champions.

SBU has also won championships in Baseball, Mens and women's swiiming and diving, and sent their womens basketball team to the sweet 16, all within the last 8 years.
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Re: Who should replace UMass - Boston U or Siena?

Worry about your own school's business, '87. 15-year NCAA droughts at supposed powerhouses aren't good things. SBU will take care of itself. Mind your own situation and good luck in the process (I say that sincerely).
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Bill Russell - you do realize you absolute freaking moron that the whole discussion is based upon when UMass leaves. The statement was based on the premise that the addition of VCU and Butler confirms a southward and westward expansion of the A10 which provides a very large incentive for UMass to leave. Getting to your pissant school has always been a problem for UMass. SBU has had two good year of basketball in thirty odd years of membership. Until they did away with it, your school was perennially at or near the bottom of the Comnmsioner's Cup standings. Your school belongs in the Metro Atlantic.
Getting past our pissant school to make the A-10 title game is also difficult for UMass.

I wouldn't characterize our expansion as southward and westward. It is OUTward, that is for sure. But if you're upset that Bonas is a little school that doesn't add to the conference, how is BU, with their 45 fans, any better? How is adding Siena, a program that is actually in the MAAC, any better?
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Re: Who should replace UMass - Boston U or Siena?

The funny thing about all of this is that I suspect that very few here, if any, have much influence over where their school plays their sports now or in the future. Or to take things a step further whether they build new facilities, properly fund sports, how many sports they compete in, etc.

Maybe there are more deep-pocketed people here than I would think or maybe there are some administrators here that I am obviously not aware of, but I sort of doubt it.
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Getting past our pissant school to make the A-10 title game is also difficult for UMass.

I wouldn't characterize our expansion as southward and westward. It is OUTward, that is for sure. But if you're upset that Bonas is a little school that doesn't add to the conference, how is BU, with their 45 fans, any better? How is adding Siena, a program that is actually in the MAAC, any better?
They're not, as I said in my first post that caused the sh1tstorm. The point is that money will drive what happens in the future. And the moiney to travel won't be there for non-revenue sports - hell, it hasn't been there for decades. UMass used to sponsor 26 sports (just twenty years ago). UMass now sponsors 18.
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They're not, as I said in my first post that caused the sh1tstorm. The point is that money will drive what happens in the future. And the moiney to travel won't be there for non-revenue sports - hell, it hasn't been there for decades. UMass used to sponsor 26 sports (just twenty years ago). UMass now sponsors 18.
Is that number change due to travel costs for non-revenue sports or due to Title IX and football upgrading to FBS. I ask in earnest.
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Is that number change due to travel costs for non-revenue sports or due to Title IX and football upgrading to FBS. I ask in earnest.
It's because they have to go to Olean and nobody realized that it's just off of an Interstate. They have been going over mountains on chartered burros.
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