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Old 06-04-2012, 01:39 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Re: Can Butler Win the Atlantic 10 in its First Season?

I wouldn't count on Garland for much. He did nothing at a less than stellar Va-Tech program. Also, at 6'1, he can't be the fourth guard out there taking Pettis' role. I think it will be more likely that La Salle will do less of the four guard line-up.
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Re: Can Butler Win the Atlantic 10 in its First Season?

He will do more then he did at Va Tech. This is his home town and he will provide some scoring punch. I didn't say a 4 guard line-up. Red-shirt Rohan Brown will get some minutes this year.
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Re: Can Butler Win the Atlantic 10 in its First Season?

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Pettis' experience is tough to replace but Garland (top 3 all-time in Philly Public League HS scoring, Wilt was at the top)... should more then fill the scoring void. He will need to play good defense. I'd like to see another power forward added to the mix before the fall semester.
No, Maurice Rice is at the top. Wilt is #2.

I wouldn't know Philly better, except that every game Maurice Rice ever played at GW, the announcers reminded everyone that he broke Wilt's record.

As for Pettis, it's not really the scoring, it's the mental toughness, defense, rebounding, and the extra dimension he brought to the offense the combination of size and skill. Going to be very tough for a 6'1" guy to make up for that after sitting out a year, but the scoring talent is certainly there.
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Re: Can Butler Win the Atlantic 10 in its First Season?

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This from a guy with a Kim Jong Il avatar. Offensive enough by itself, but then he posts this worthless drivel.

I think the prime contenders next year are Temple, X, SLU, UMass, and Butler. I don't think in the end that Butler will win simply because a Horizon League schedule is not the same as going through an A-10 schedule. And the sheer number of upper echelon teams in the conference hurt their chances to win the conference tournament. Can they win? Sure. But I'd think somewhere around 12-1 odds.
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Also, what I'm posting is very valid. There isn't another team in the same stratosphere as those three teams. I honestly can't foresee any situation where one of them doesn't win the conference. I would bet A TON of money on these words.
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Re: Can Butler Win the Atlantic 10 in its First Season?

I think anyone in the conference has a CHANCE of winning the regular season or tournament title.

I think some teams are ridiculous long-shots (and we know who they are). But the strength of this league is our depth.

We need to find a way to make that work FOR US as opposed to against us.
We've had NCAA locks (Temple last year), NCAA probables (SLU, Xavier) and NCAA bubble teams (SJU, UMass, Bona, Dayton). And when the bubble teams beat other bubble teams, it keeps them both out.

We need to make it so when bubble teams beat other bubble teams, it puts them both in.
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How is a picture of Kim Jong Il a political preference?

It's going to be strange reconciling myself to the fact that .500 will be a fairly admirable conference record this year. The new teams coming in could really goof things up.
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Re: Can Butler Win the Atlantic 10 in its First Season?

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I wouldn't count on Garland for much. He did nothing at a less than stellar Va-Tech program. Also, at 6'1, he can't be the fourth guard out there taking Pettis' role. I think it will be more likely that La Salle will do less of the four guard line-up.
I think your off on your opinion about Garland. He will be a big part of La Salle's team next year and should be a double digit scorer. He's a talented player who will bring a lot to the team.

La Salle will arguably have the best guard rotation in the A-10 next season with Duren, Mills, Galloway, Garland, and Peterson (who will play the role of the "big guard").
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I think your off on your opinion about Garland. He will be a big part of La Salle's team next year and should be a double digit scorer. He's a talented player who will bring a lot to the team.

La Salle will arguably have the best guard rotation in the A-10 next season with Duren, Mills, Galloway, Garland, and Peterson (who will play the role of the "big guard").
Tyrone Garland is nothing special. Here's a video of Jesse Morgan going to work on him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSnDlWIJ-2A
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Re: Can Butler Win the Atlantic 10 in its First Season?

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Tyrone Garland is nothing special. Here's a video of Jesse Morgan going to work on him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSnDlWIJ-2A
Again, Garland is a talented player who will play a key role on La Salle's team next season. Looking forward to seeing his talent on the court next season.
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Re: Can Butler Win the Atlantic 10 in its First Season?

Neither of the new teams will win the league. I think the league schedule will wear both of them down and both will finish in the 4-8 range.

Either Saint Joe or Saint Louis will be league champ. I'm leaning Saint Joe right now.
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Re: Can Butler Win the Atlantic 10 in its First Season?

They lack fire power.
I think they'll compete, but no. Butler will not be running away with the A-10.
To be fair though, I'm not sure there is a clear cut winner of this league. That's not to imply that everybody has a shot, mind you.
It'll come down to 3-4 teams. I don't see Butler as being among them.
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Re: Can Butler Win the Atlantic 10 in its First Season?

I've learned with this league that you never know what's going to happen until we get into conference play, and preseason ranking and predictions are as my best guess
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Rotnei will provide plenty of firepower alone.
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Re: Can Butler Win the Atlantic 10 in its First Season?

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Tyrone Garland is nothing special. Here's a video of Jesse Morgan going to work on him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSnDlWIJ-2A
Did you happen to catch the video of the rematch? Garland outplayed Morgan and led his team to a 20 pt win in the playoffs. I guess Ty was a little more special at money time.
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Re: Can Butler Win the Atlantic 10 in its First Season?

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How is a picture of Kim Jong Il a political preference?

It's going to be strange reconciling myself to the fact that .500 will be a fairly admirable conference record this year. The new teams coming in could really goof things up.
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