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z8-Minutemen · 06-08-2012, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BrownIndians85

I can't believe I'll wade into this fray, but there's one thing all communist countries have in common.. a brutal dictatorial leader with an extremely wealthy proletariat and almost 100% of their people living in squalor. WHERE DO I SIGN UP?!? TAKE MY FREEDOM AWAY!!!

This statement is false in so many ways. 1st, the leaders are not always brutal to their people. Look at Fidel Castro in Cuba, has he ever oppressed his people???

And secondly, not all of their people are living in squalor. In Cuba, for example, they are generally very happy people. In North Korea, they praised Kim Jong Il as a God. Those people were very content with their leader. Sure, the people are naive to the whole situation going on around them, but what does it matter if they're happy? As they always say, ignorance is bliss. The residents of those countries get their fair share of the supply, and get to live simple, non-hectic lifestyles. While in America, it's the exact opposite. In America, if we're not good enough, your life sucks. In communist countries, you will always have some help to fall back on. Would you rather live simple and careless, or chaotic and stressed? I'll take the the former, thank you very much. Now that's what I call freedom.

ace93 · 06-08-2012, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by z8-Minutemen

In Cuba, for example, they are generally very happy people.

How many Cubans do you know? Having grown up in Miami and therefore having a ton of Cuban friends, I can tell you that what you say is not true. If they were free to leave, many would. Many do despite not being free to and risk their lives while doing it. My sister-in-law and her family left in the 90's, they were not happy people. The family that is still there is not happy.

I have a friend who travelled with ESPN when he Oriole's played there in 1999 and he said that what they were allowed to film does not paint an accurate picture.

BrownIndians85 · 06-08-2012, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by z8-Minutemen

In North Korea, they praised Kim Jong Il as a God.

Right. I'll believe state-authorized film and photo out of N Korea any day. Sadly, you're an idiot.

jimbo65 · 06-08-2012, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by z8-Minutemen

This statement is false in so many ways. 1st, the leaders are not always brutal to their people. Look at Fidel Castro in Cuba, has he ever oppressed his people???

And secondly, not all of their people are living in squalor. In Cuba, for example, they are generally very happy people. In North Korea, they praised Kim Jong Il as a God. Those people were very content with their leader. Sure, the people are naive to the whole situation going on around them, but what does it matter if they're happy? As they always say, ignorance is bliss. The residents of those countries get their fair share of the supply, and get to live simple, non-hectic lifestyles. While in America, it's the exact opposite. In America, if we're not good enough, your life sucks. In communist countries, you will always have some help to fall back on. Would you rather live simple and careless, or chaotic and stressed? I'll take the the former, thank you very much. Now that's what I call freedom.

I assume/hope you are putting us on. How about Hitler, he did solve the unemployment problem in Europe, unfortunately the problem was solved by massacaring tens of million.

z8-Minutemen · 06-08-2012, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ace93

How many Cubans do you know? Having grown up in Miami and therefore having a ton of Cuban friends, I can tell you that what you say is not true. If they were free to leave, many would. Many do despite not being free to and risk their lives while doing it. My sister-in-law and her family left in the 90's, they were not happy people. The family that is still there is not happy.

I have a friend who travelled with ESPN when he Oriole's played there in 1999 and he said that what they were allowed to film does not paint an accurate picture.

I'm sorry if I touched a soft spot there with you, but I'll take your word for it. I have heard otherwise from many Cuban friends myself. We're both going off of hearsay, so who knows who is really correct. Various people have their different experiences, so we shouldn't be generalizing so much.

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I assume/hope you are putting us on. How about Hitler, he did solve the unemployment problem in Europe, unfortunately the problem was solved by massacaring tens of million.

Why would I be putting you on about this? What motive is there for me to do that?

Don't even compare Stalin, Castro, and Kim Jong Il to that killing bastard Hitler. Unlike Hitler, their actions were in the best interest of their countries and people. Oh not to mention, they didn't slaughter millions of people.

paulxu · 06-08-2012, 02:04 PM

Do they have any history classes at UMass that cover Russian history?

**Headliner** · 06-08-2012, 02:17 PM

No need for this off-topic mess. Let's get back on topic.

vaNtR · 06-08-2012, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by z8-Minutemen

I'm sorry if I touched a soft spot there with you, but I'll take your word for it. I have heard otherwise from many Cuban friends myself. We're both going off of hearsay, so who knows who is really correct. Various people have their different experiences, so we shouldn't be generalizing so much.

Why would I be putting you on about this? What motive is there for me to do that?

Don't even compare Stalin, Castro, and Kim Jong Il to that killing bastard Hitler. Unlike Hitler, their actions were in the best interest of their countries and people. Oh not to mention, they didn't slaughter millions of people.

The Russians had to install lights to let people know when to stop clapping after Stalin addressed the country. Prior, the first person to stop applauding had to overcome the fear of landing in Siberia with a T-shirt and shorts. Real nice guy.

njlsufan · 06-08-2012, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by z8-Minutemen

This statement is false in so many ways. 1st, the leaders are not always brutal to their people. Look at Fidel Castro in Cuba, has he ever oppressed his people???

And secondly, not all of their people are living in squalor. In Cuba, for example, they are generally very happy people. In North Korea, they praised Kim Jong Il as a God. Those people were very content with their leader. Sure, the people are naive to the whole situation going on around them, but what does it matter if they're happy? As they always say, ignorance is bliss. The residents of those countries get their fair share of the supply, and get to live simple, non-hectic lifestyles. While in America, it's the exact opposite. In America, if we're not good enough, your life sucks. In communist countries, you will always have some help to fall back on. Would you rather live simple and careless, or chaotic and stressed? I'll take the the former, thank you very much. Now that's what I call freedom.

Do a little fact checking before you spout off completely uninformed and ignorant. For example, on Russia, may I suggest you read The Gulag Archipelago by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn? You could also read about the Great Purge during Stalin. Good old Kim Jong Il is estimated to have let upwards of 3.5 million of his beloved followers starve to death during his enlightened reign. Of course there's always the ever popular re-education camps he ran as well.

waldo027 · 06-08-2012, 06:29 PM

waggy · 06-08-2012, 06:42 PM

Does a troll really win when he has to resort to backing communist dictators?

Muddy Waters · 06-08-2012, 06:47 PM

Back to topic ==> Can Butler Win the Atlantic 10 in its First Season?

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Can Butler Win the Atlantic 10 in its First Season? (Yahoo! Round Table Discussion - 4 hours ago)

At the College Basketball Roundtable, we ask members of the college basketball coverage staff for their opinions about a current topic in the sport.

This Week's Question:

Butler is moving into the Atlantic 10 next season, a year ahead of schedule; can the Bulldogs win the league in their inaugural go-round?

My own humble opinion is that it is possible, but unlikely, that Butler will be the # 1 seed in the Atlantic 10 Tournament in March 2013 or will win the A10 Tournament this season.

But Butler should be easily be a top-half A10 team in the 2012-13 season and as long as Brad Stevens remains the Bulldog's Coach, Butler will be a strong Atlantic 10 team, year afer year.

He's that good.

Muddy Waters · 12-30-2012, 06:26 AM

It appears that I seriously underestimated Butler, but so did everyone else.

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Originally Posted by Muddy Waters earlier this morning

Saturday Stock Report (Jeff Eisenberg, Yahoo! – The Dagger – December 30, 2012)

Stock Rising: Butler

Even though Vanderbilt lost all five starters last year and will likely finish in the bottom half of the SEC this season, winning in Nashville can still be a bit tricky. As a result, it was impressive the way Butler didn't just eke out a victory over the Commodores on Sunday night but instead left no doubt who the better team was.

Rotnei Clarke scored 22 points and sank six 3-pointers as Butler rolled to a 68-49 win to improve to 10-2 on the season. Included in those 10 wins: neutral-court victories over Indiana, North Carolina and Marquette in addition to Saturday's win over the Commodores.

That's the resume of an Atlantic 10 title contender, folks.

Butler Bulldogs - RPI Breakdown (CBS Sports)

RPI # 6 Butler is presently 4-2 vs. RPI Top 100 teams with their 'worst' loss against RPI # 99 Xavier.

butlerblue101 · 01-01-2013, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by z8-Minutemen

Don't even compare Stalin, Castro, and Kim Jong Il to that killing bastard Hitler. Unlike Hitler, their actions were in the best interest of their countries and people. Oh not to mention, they didn't slaughter millions of people.

Possibly the dumbest post in internet forum history.

vaNtR · 01-01-2013, 03:29 PM

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Possibly the dumbest post in internet forum history.

Honestly, I'd normally agree with you, but I've seen some of his other posts.

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