Muddy Waters

xavierhoops - you have stated as a fact that London Warren was "caught with prostitutes".

Please post a link to your source of verifiable information, as I was not able to find it.


Rumor also had it that London Warren once involved himself in a situation with a prostitute.


This "story" was nothing more than an unsubtantiated, unconfirmed rumor from an anonymous source that was published on the often-incorrect Blackburn Review on April 8, 2010:

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After a vigorous check of some public records, it appears that London was not arrested or charged with any crime and therefore, no legal charges are pending against him. Of course, we are not labeling this story as fact. We trust this reader as they have been very informative and truthful on a lot of things private to the basketball team in the past. That being said, this is the first time we have published a story of this sort, but since it relates to Warren's benching we felt it deserved to be out there.

Shoddy rumor-mongering from an anonymous source that cannot even be labelled as "journalism" - which is putting verifiable truthful information, either pleasant or unpleasant, in the public domain.


Google Search: London Warren prostitute

. . . only one relevant article - the Blackburn Review article quoted above.

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A10BBall

You do not understand law then... Reread my previous post... Whether you or I agree with it or not, prostitution is not a joking matter with politicians and the court system. For whatever reason, they take this sort of crime seriously.
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A10BBall

Haha if you think that is going to happen more power to you, very good chance that does not happen. His attorney will not have that type of pull.. He is going to be subjected to what the DA wants to do.. The reasoning for not giving a break to Wyatt is very simple and logical... One of the previously mentioned political and social pressure to prosecute to the fullest. Also second, Wyatt is one of 28 arrested.. He will not receive a lesser sentence because he is a college basketball player, law does not work that way. If Wyatt does get a break, the rest of the people arrested will then request for the lesser sentence (unless they a repeat offender). A DA will not do this as they will catch so much flak that they allowed all of these people walk then why do they even spend the money and people on vice squads especially for this type of offense.
While I agree with the sediment that this type of offense is greatly sensationalized. In the real world, the offense is serious sadly. And the DA wants to give Wyatt a special deal then there will be a lot of cases (a great majority of the other 27 cases) tried and appealed as they will why is he getting special treatment and we want the same. In the legal system, when a mass sting is created, generally everyone will get the same charge (unless prior history).
If Wyatt was arrested in an individual situation, absolutely he would get a special deal, and I believe he should; however, in these mass stings, that will not happen. One ruling or set of charges on 1 person will have too large of an affect on other cases and people.

A10BBall

Please stop commenting, Steve. Just stop.

Dunphy is a La Salle graduate, moral codes are personal to a person. He will act, his personal history has shown consistent management and punishment of this programs and it is his.

owlfan2272

Wow you really have two different divided opinions between the two boards I go to. (This and Owlscoop). Here the clear opinion is that it is no big deal, on the Temple board the clear opinion is that he should not return. Usually it is the opposite with the players fans being sympathetic and opposing fans wanting massive punishment. Very interesting.

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njlsufan

Hey Muddy? If the first incident with Warren was "unsubstantiated" what about the event down in Atlanta recently? You remember that one don't you? They were shooting up the neighborhood from their car or something like that? Didn't Warren get bounced from the staff at Georgia Tech for that little gem or is that "unsubstantiated" as well?

And that's exactly why I'm not condemning that kid from Temple. Every school has their scandals at one point or another.

A10BBall

Unfortunately, there are people on here making comments who do not understand the legal system at all...

Naturally on a message board that is to be expected where people state opinion in lieu of knowledge or fact.

owlfan2272

That's a very good point. The legal system very well could take this right out of Temple's hands.

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A10fan2

Growing up in a house FULL of defense attorneys I can tell you that Wyatt isn't going to get much other than community service and this will be expunged after a few years. Yes, the legal system takes this seriously but "first timers" usually plea these things out and it never even gets to court. Court costs and probation. Watch

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Muddy's from 2009

He has since made the same "prediction" this year. CLASSIC

AdamtheFlyer

Exactly. I would be shocked if he even got "real" probation. He'll probably get six months to a year of unsupervised probabtion, aka a suspended sentence.

I understand the law (in many areas) quite well. Like I said, the punishment is generally in the realm of a DUS. These "stings" are usually covered by some grant money and are used for revenue enhancement as much as anything. Police departments have to justify having a vice squad, so they go out and make the money work. It is what it is. The fact that so many people can plead out to a fine shows how "serious" the legal system takes it. The legal system brushes it off when it involves consenting adults. It's absurd to see people pretend this is a serious offense. It's not.

Prostitution arrests are far more serious in life than in criminal court. Spouses and children get caught in the mess, jobs are lost, etc. It just happened to a prominent high school athletic director (and son of UD's legendary coach) here in the Dayton area. He barely sniffed the inside of a court room, let alone legitimate criminal punishment.

Wyatt does have something to answer to. He screwed up. But compare him to the Temple football player being accused of rape. It's hard to take a prostitution charge all that serious with that case going on at the same time. It would be a shame for Temple to just give up on the kid. I don't think a man like Dunphy will. It'll be a teaching moment, something college is all about.

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SpiderDave19

Enlighten me.

What will his legal repercussions likely be? Assuming this is a first time offense?

I'm seperating what the state of NJ does to him from what Temple will do to him....I don't expect he'll go to prison. Despite how serious the legal system may take this offense, I expect he'll be available for practice and games if the University allows him. I'm simply commenting on how severe some expect Temple's reaction will be.

I did find your sediment interesting, though.

UMass87

I find it bizarre that anyone wants to kick a kid off of the team (I'd find it less bizarre if this was in season or even if school was in session) for being accused of propositioning a prostitute (who was a cop). Propositioning a cop shouldn't even be a crime - that's essentially a thought crime. The more one thinks about our laws regarding prostitution the less they make sense.

owlfan2272

I honestly don't want Khalif kicked off the team. I personally see this as embarrasing and he will have to deal with that but kicking him off just seems wrong. Many are already acting like he will not be playing though. Fran doesn't seem like the type who would kick a player out but Khalif is going to have to really show Fran something before he ever lets him back in a game. I think our fans know Khalif has had character issues before this (not criminal) and are fed up with it but I still see a lot of good in Khalif.

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owlfan2272

Also keep in mind they may set a suspension for games but Fran can certainly make it longer if Khalif doesn't reach his standard. They may come out with say a 10 game suspension but Khalif is going to have to be an incredible hard worker from here on out if he wants to play under Fran.

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paulxu

Bench him to start the game if you make it to the NIT finals.

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