ExplorerSteve

What is next after the $60 million fine and 4 year bowl probation could be the death to the Penn State Football program - Expulsion from the Big 10 conference.

The good people outside of Happy Valley have to send the Penn State community a message "YOU DO NOT GET TO SET YOUR OWN RULES and live in isolation".

They need to clean house.

__________________
www.LaSalle-Explorers.com Unofficial Source for FREE LaSalle Explorers Information along with "Explorers Universe" Messageboard.

X-man47

If the Freeh report is accurate, it is amazing to me that the PSU president has not been charged with anything yet. But I have a feeling that the resolution process for this horrible debacle has only just begun.

__________________
Xavier always goes to the NCAA tournament, and almost always makes some noise while there. Projecting anything less than that this season feels like folly.
Eamonn Brennan, ESPN (Summer Shootaround, 2012)

Mac539

And I thought the NCAA was just going to ban intramurals at Penn St- Berks county.

Mac539

It seems odd to me the monetary damage, which has nothing to do with the NCAA. Isn't this what the criminal process does in real courts?

Hawkamaniac

If they do expel PSU from the Big 10, the repurcussions on the conference realignment carousel could be interesting.

xudash

The NCAA is sending its own message about priorities and what should have been done. They're taking the same position as most people on this matter: that it was a calculated, egregious cover-up, concerning heinous acts that should never have been allowed and were certainly allowed to go on much too long at the expense of Sandusky's many victims.

If you're wondering about how they came to the $60 million figure, it's my understanding that it equates to one year's annual revenue for the PSU athletic department.

Otherwise, the B1G also has inflicted its own monetary punishment: Penn State will not receive its B1G distributions for the duration of the bowl ban.

Between the actions taken by the NCAA and B1G, I don't see how Penn State will be in any position to field football teams that don't put to risk the players that suite up for for it from here through the ban period. As many have noted, though it would be hard on the local Happy Valley economy, a one or two year death penalty would have been less crippling than all this.

AdamtheFlyer

The Big Ten will not expel Penn State, because that would only hurt Big Ten schools. It's the exact same reason why Penn State did not get the death penalty or a TV ban. It's the reason why the death penalty and TV ban will never be handed down again to anyone.

The punishment of Penn State is about punishing Penn State as much as possible without undue collateral damage. The NCAA and Big Ten got it right.

__________________
Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.

Mac539

We will see if they got it right. Fining PSU 60 Million is fining the state of Penna. Will the legislature want to cough it up?

Dornado

The 60 million can only come from revenue generating sports, I believe.

As a Big 10 alum/fan, I say kick them out and replace them with Notre Dame... though that seems unlikely for a multitude of reasons.

__________________

xudash

Per a fellow Xavier fan's explanation:

"the "death penalty" is basically a slang term for what is really called the "repeat violator rule." Emphasis on "Repeat." In order for it to be considered, it has to be an offense that a school has already been punished for committing, but has committed again within five years. It does not apply to this situation, nor does it apply to most situations when the media begins throwing it out there. Just a little FYI for everyone. Penn State might be a very extreme and aggregious example, but it still their first time committing and being punished for this type of violation. Now, if they do it again in the next five years, then they'll get the death penalty."

They could have ruled for Penn State to terminate its program for a period of time or indefinitely, but not under the standing so-called "death penalty" provision to which most everyone has been referring.

Hawkamaniac

The penalty is understandable but I am uncomfortable with the lack of due process. Will the NCAA president now be the new Kennessaw Mountain Landis, ruling with college sports with absolute authority under a "best interest of college sports clause"?

AdamtheFlyer

The fact that the NCAA gave Penn State punishment set a precedent. There is no guideline for this type of action. They could have given whatever penalty they wanted to give. This was an action taken far outside the NCAA handbook.

The repeat offender rule does not state the death penalty must be used when a school on probation commits another major violation, it merely makes it an option. It won't ever be used again in a revenue generating sport. It just won't. The SMU death penalty didn't just kill SMU, you could argue it killed an entire conference. There is a reasonable chance the Big 12 would have never existed without the SMU ruling.

__________________
Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.

vaNtR

If the recent allegations against the University of Miami are true, expect them to suffer severe punitive action. They are considered repeat offenders and have violated NCAA regulations since the 80s. If the recruiting violations during Golden's tenure are compounded with the Nevin Shapiro scandal they have a real chance to get the death penalty.

UMass87

I'm amused that ExplorerSteve can get so incensed over pedophilia at PSU but still believes the Pope had nothing to do with covering up THOUSANDS of cases of pedophilia. Can we kick the Catholics out of Christianity?

xudash

I agree with everything you wrote here.

My earlier response was to simply point out that the NCAA was in no position to invoke the so-called death penalty in this case, because Penn State did not have a prior history of coaches ruining/damaging young boys' lives.