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Old 08-30-2012, 12:16 PM   #91 (permalink)
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Old 08-30-2012, 01:40 PM   #92 (permalink)
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Based on what's been said at the Banners on the Parkway site, on the radio, and elsewhere, the sex was not consensual because alcohol was involved according to Xavier's code of conduct in the Student Handbook. If that is the case, Xavier's only option was expulsion because that is required for "level 1" violations of this kind, again according to the Handbook. Given the policy, the recent history with Xavier's handling of rape charges, and the DOE intervention that occurred because of the way Xavier handled these situations in the past, Xavier had no choice but to expel Dez Wells. It's too bad because he's a great kid by all accounts, and this was not a criminal rape situation.
Dez was a Freshman, and he had sex with a RA (Resident Assistant) at Xavier. She was the one who is supposed to be in charge. Dez was drunk too, so by the Xavier code he couldn't have given consent either. Why isn't she expelled for rape then? She should have known better. She was senior to him and in Xavier's employ. He was a drunken freshman that was lured to her room. She broke all the rules, and yet her identity is sealed. He is branded a public rapist.

If Dez couldn't have given consent, then he was rapped too! Two can play at that game, and only one of them was in a position of authority.
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Well, for starters, obviously you care about what school he is a fan of since you brought it up on the first page of this thread. Secondly, it's obviously very relelvant to you. Since again, you were the one to suggest the prosecutor was an X fan just wanting to get Dez back on the team.

Wow, some people really just talk out of their *** on here. If you're just randomly making stuff up or wildly guessing, just don't post.
My point is that someone who is a UC fan can be an XU fan, especially a politician in Cincinnati. If you are too dense to understand, so be it. I stand by my belief that he wanted Dez back on X because that is exactly what he said. Time for you to wake up.
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This thread was incredibly ill-conceived.
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Dez was a Freshman, and he had sex with a RA (Resident Assistant) at Xavier. She was the one who is supposed to be in charge. Dez was drunk too, so by the Xavier code he couldn't have given consent either. Why isn't she expelled for rape then? She should have known better. She was senior to him and in Xavier's employ. He was a drunken freshman that was lured to her room. She broke all the rules, and yet her identity is sealed. He is branded a public rapist.

If Dez couldn't have given consent, then he was rapped too! Two can play at that game, and only one of them was in a position of authority.
These are interesting questions, ones that I have no clue as to what the answers would be. You might consider asking them, as a Xavier alumnus and concerned supporter of the athletics program, of the Xavier administration. If you do and get a response, I would love to know what that response was.
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Is it true that it was with an RA? If so, Wells could have a claim there himself.
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I'm sure that Dez Wells has learned a lot during his year at Xavier University.

Look for him to hook up with sober RAs at Kentucky.








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My point is that someone who is a UC fan can be an XU fan, especially a politician in Cincinnati. If you are too dense to understand, so be it. I stand by my belief that he wanted Dez back on X because that is exactly what he said. Time for you to wake up.
LOL. It's too late to argue and I'm tired, but you had this wild conspiracy that the prosecutor must be a big Xavier fan and he wanted Dez back on the team so that was the reasoning behind his comments. When someone pointed out, he is in fact a big UC supporter, you say it's irrelevant and that noone cares.

And then you tell me to wake up. Some things are laughable, even this late.
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Old 09-01-2012, 06:25 PM   #102 (permalink)
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LOL. It's too late to argue and I'm tired, but you had this wild conspiracy that the prosecutor must be a big Xavier fan and he wanted Dez back on the team so that was the reasoning behind his comments. When someone pointed out, he is in fact a big UC supporter, you say it's irrelevant and that noone cares.

And then you tell me to wake up. Some things are laughable, even this late.
A conspiracy would involve at least two people acting in concert, however I discussed the motivations and actions of one man in my posts. Clearly you know nothing about the law or the legal system, so no wonder you were ready to turn in for the night.

You also obviously did not grasp the point of my post which was expressing concerns about a prosecutor using a grand jury to attempt to get Wells back on the X team. This is not a wild conspiracy, it is the actions of the prosecutor. I have already characterized them as bizarre. If there was no evidence against Wells, how could a prosecutor ethically present a case to indict an innocent person? Why would any prosecutorial action be taken against a man deemed innocent after the prosecutor reviewed the facts? Clearly there was no effort to obtain an indictment of Wells, the prosecutor simply used the grand jury to attempt to sway public opinion against the X administration in order to reinstate Wells. Why? He is clearly interested in the success of the X basketball team in a big way. A10fan's statement that the prosecutor is a fan of UC is completely irrelevant, unless one accepts as irrefutable his underlying premise that a person who is a fan of UC can never be a fan of XU or want to promote X basketball.

Time for bed again, big boy.
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Grand Juries do not hear court cases. They only hear presentments of possible crimes and determine if probable cause exists to indict the defendant.
In this case, they found no probable cause. End of story.
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To summarize, dunk's delusioned theory... The prosecutor is a big UC fan and supporter. But, according to Dunk, he is interested in the success of the Xavier basketball program in a big way. That alone, doesn't make sense. But, because he wants Xavier to continue to be wildly successful in their men's basketball program he takes this to the grandy jury so he can sway public opinion against the Xavier administration and get Dez back on the team.

Where do these Dayton fans come up with this delusional stuff? I hope you weren't educated at UD.
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