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Old 09-04-2012, 05:29 PM   #16 (permalink)
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If only Gordo's heave was about 3 inches to the left...it would have banked in.....
False. These Butler fans don't deserve that kind of success. They've been spoiled too much already.
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Old 09-04-2012, 05:42 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Can mid-majors make Final Four push?

I'm certain there are hordes of Butler fans that deserve whatever success they have. While it's true that Title_BU has announced himself as the Resident Butler Sphincter on here, I doubt he is representative of the entire fanbase. Like all other A10 schools if you don't have SOME butthole fans, you don't have ENOUGH fans.

It's such a strange dynamic...the success of Xavier, DAyton, Butler, etc. is such a positive, in many ways, for EVERY A10 team....but a few internet donkeys get under our skin so much that we root against an entire institution so we can be "better" than them on a f**king message board. I know I'm not entirely innocent of that feeling, though I fight it with all I have. But I can't lie - I am very much looking forward to Butler losing a bunch of A10 games this year...I'm just not strong enough.
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Old 09-04-2012, 05:56 PM   #18 (permalink)
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LOL, what the hell didI do? Butler is going to either be in the preseason top 25 or within the first several other vote getters and there was actually a thread about "struggling" in the conference. (this isn't the acc people) It's absurd. Grow the hell up, the jealousy that pervades this board is just nonsense. (that Xavier recruiting thread is flat embarrassing)

No one will think you are shitty if you can actually do something. I
t's pretty equal opportunity.

What were you expecting?
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Old 09-04-2012, 06:28 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Re: Can mid-majors make Final Four push?

In case you guys didn't read all the way into it, this article even states that the A10 is not a true mid-major.

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How well will Butler and VCU transition to the Atlantic 10?: The acceleration of the Bulldogs' and Rams' move into the more rugged A-10 has put significant pressure on rosters built to compete in their former leagues to be able to handle bigger, more physical rosters for a full league season. Both teams are very talented -- VCU especially returns a ton of talent that has developed during the Rams' excellent runs the last two seasons -- so we'll get a good proxy of the age-old, high-major argument that mid-majors couldn't handle playing their league schedules.

The article really should have been titled "Can non-BCS schools make a Final Four push?"
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Old 09-04-2012, 06:38 PM   #20 (permalink)
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LOL, what the hell didI do?
There are many teams in this conference that have reason to believe they will be very good next year. When you come in to this conference from one that was considerably less challenging and claim that you will be immediately dominant it comes off as arrogant and dickish, especially when we have so many strong teams this year and your team last year was nothing special. Based on your statements I get the feeling that you think conference play will be very easy, so easy that it is a completely insignificant bump on the road to an inevitable sweet 16 run. This also annoys and frustrates many on the board because it implies their teams aren't good, or a challenge at all. Overall I get the feeling that you think Butler is above the conference in general. Remember, Butler jumped at the opportunity to join the A10, and it wasn't to play an easy conference schedule, it was to join a conference that always has multiple tournament quality teams.
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Old 09-04-2012, 06:53 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I pretty specifically said that I really couldn't care less about the conference race this or any year. Butler having a 2nd weekend team is completely independent of the conference.

I did unfortunately get pulled into some ridiculous conversations where I didn't resist the temptation to resume (probably shouldn't have)

But the surprising lack of respect I found on this board was surprising.
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I pretty specifically said that I really couldn't care less about the conference race this or any year. Butler having a 2nd weekend team is completely independent of the conference.
Statements like this are exactly what I was talking about. Saying you don't care about the conference race upsets people because it sounds like you think Butler is above it all.
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But the surprising lack of respect I found on this board was surprising.
Well that only stands to reason.

Also, were you expecting the A-10 fans to fall over themselves to fellate Butler? Every one I've seen has them in the top half of the conference in their predictions and is very happy to see them here. The questions about their transition are not as unfounded as you may think, and you may not be used to caring about conference play because I'm sure it sucked before, but in the A-10 it is actually entertaining and matters.
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I pretty specifically said that I really couldn't care less about the conference race this or any year. Butler having a 2nd weekend team is completely independent of the conference.
This is a pretty ridiculous statement in and of itself. If you don't perform well during the conference schedule, there won't be a 1st weekend let alone a 2nd weekend.
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But remember - no one is showing HIM respect.
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But the surprising lack of respect I found on this board was surprising.
I too have been surprised to be surprised. It's quite surprising.

I also knew some girls that were shocked to be shocked, but that's another thing entirely.
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Yes typos on an iPhone are impossible to make.

Anyway good luck on the season.
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But the surprising lack of respect I found on this board was surprising.
Overuse of the word "surprise" here aside...

We respect what you guys have done in the past. We do not bow down to your team as "almighty" though. Remember - last year you qualified for the CBI, played in it, and lost to Pitt. There were 8 teams in this conference last year to qualify for a more meaningful post-season than that.
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Old 09-04-2012, 07:42 PM   #29 (permalink)
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If we were at all discussing last year, I'd probably try to make you understand why the team missed its second NCAA/NIT in 18 years after losing two early to the NBA draft and another 4 to graduation (which accounted for ALL of the outside shooting).

But we're not talking about last year (or the teams that played in 24 NCAA Tournament games since 2000)

We are talking about this season. There are 3 teams in this conference consistently considered to be among the top 25-30 in the country. After that? Hell, it's a toss-up. I'm not apologizing for having an eye on the big prize.

I honestly have no idea why we are having this discussion. If its because you perceived that I thought butler was "better" than the conference because I'm only concerned with the NCAA tournament, I'm sorry but that's just not this case.

Hopefully all of you find the OOC success that you are looking for.
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