Whatever Happened to Khalif Wyatt? - Page 3 - Basketball Forum : Professional and College Basketball Forums

JHG722 · 09-23-2012, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MudFlap

Attempting to illegally screw somebody - arrested - criminal record - no expulsion - can still play!
Screwing somebody consentually - immediate expulsion.

Sounds fair.

We are a state school (unaffiliated). Xavier is an affiliated, private university. Completely different in every way. Stop whining.

UMass87 · 09-23-2012, 11:39 AM

I have never even considered going to a pro for sex but for the life of me I can't understand how people consider it to be such a sign moral turpitude. Should kids get kicked off off of teams for speeding? Speeding actually endangers the lives of others. Two consenting adults exchanging money for sex can only potentially harm one or both of the consenting adults. I don't agree with the behavior but I certainly am not going to get on some pathetic moral soapbox about it. As for the Wells comparison - it's bogus. Wells got expelled from Xavier because Xavier couldn't get their shit together. Wells was the victim NOT Mudflap or any other Xavier fan.

JHG722 · 09-23-2012, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by UMass87

I have never even considered going to a pro for sex but for the life of me I can't understand how people consider it to be such a sign moral turpitude. Should kids get kicked off off of teams for speeding? Speeding actually endangers the lives of others. Two consenting adults exchanging money for sex can only potentially harm one or both of the consenting adults. I don't agree with the behavior but I certainly am not going to get on some pathetic moral soapbox about it. As for the Wells comparison - it's bogus. Wells got expelled from Xavier because Xavier couldn't get their shit together. Wells was the victim NOT Mudflap or any other Xavier fan.

Exactly. Non-forced prostitution is a victimless crime, that is legal around the world, and even legal in parts of Nevada. Let's stop acting like Khalif is a rapist or a murderer. Should he have done it? No, but enough already.

SpiderDave19 · 09-23-2012, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by UMass87

Wells was the victim NOT Mudflap or any other Xavier fan.

I wouldn't go that far. Should Wells have been expelled? Maybe not. But the school didn't pick a student at random and throw him out. There was an incident, not his first brush with bad news at Xavier, and we don't know all the details. Some of what's leaked indicates that it wasn't exacty a moment to be proud of. Maybe the punishment was over the top, maybe if Xavier had their shit together he'd still be there. But even without their shit together, they are not taking that step without ANY reason. He's a weak victim, if he is one.

UMass87 · 09-23-2012, 09:57 PM

Spiderdave - maybe so. It's really hard to know what was going on. If the other party was a RA then I stick to my belief that he was the victim. Absent forced assault there's no other objective way to view this - an RA has the power.

bprichard · 09-24-2012, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by UMass87

Spiderdave - maybe so. It's really hard to know what was going on. If the other party was a RA then I stick to my belief that he was the victim. Absent forced assault there's no other objective way to view this - an RA has the power.

As a former RA, I find this comical. About the only power RAs have is to ask people politely to keep the noise down.

SpiderDave19 · 09-24-2012, 05:06 AM

RA's have the power to just point their finger and get students expelled from school? I don't think so.

Nehemiahingram · 09-25-2012, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by z8-Minutemen

.....Khalif just gets off easy.....

How do you know? Did the hooker tell you?

clark1a · 09-25-2012, 09:46 AM

Just wondering if the person caught soliciting was a head or asst coach, would they still be employed?
Anybody?

JHG722 · 09-25-2012, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by clark1a

Just wondering if the person caught soliciting was a head or asst coach, would they still be employed?
Anybody?

I think that's very different, especially if they're married. Let's not act like college kids make the best decisions. I think schools expect more of coaches.

clark1a · 09-25-2012, 04:13 PM

Oh really. You didn't answer what should or would have happened. In the Wyatt case, Temple dropped the ball, kid should sit for a game or 2. That would serve as a better teaching moment, not a prepared statement and pay $1000. From the sound of some TU faithful, kid needs a attitude adjustment. This was a blown opportunity. But we'll see where and how it plays out.

JHG722 · 09-25-2012, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by clark1a

Oh really. You didn't answer what should or would have happened. In the Wyatt case, Temple dropped the ball, kid should sit for a game or 2. That would serve as a better teaching moment, not a prepared statement and pay $1000. From the sound of some TU faithful, kid needs a attitude adjustment. This was a blown opportunity. But we'll see where and how it plays out.

You're entitled to your opinion.

09-23-2012, 11:39 AM	#32 (permalink)
UMass87 Star Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,727 Rep Power: 226644	Re: Whatever Happened to Khalif Wyatt? I have never even considered going to a pro for sex but for the life of me I can't understand how people consider it to be such a sign moral turpitude. Should kids get kicked off off of teams for speeding? Speeding actually endangers the lives of others. Two consenting adults exchanging money for sex can only potentially harm one or both of the consenting adults. I don't agree with the behavior but I certainly am not going to get on some pathetic moral soapbox about it. As for the Wells comparison - it's bogus. Wells got expelled from Xavier because Xavier couldn't get their shit together. Wells was the victim NOT Mudflap or any other Xavier fan.

09-23-2012, 09:57 PM	#35 (permalink)
UMass87 Star Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,727 Rep Power: 226644	Re: Whatever Happened to Khalif Wyatt? Spiderdave - maybe so. It's really hard to know what was going on. If the other party was a RA then I stick to my belief that he was the victim. Absent forced assault there's no other objective way to view this - an RA has the power.

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SpiderDave19 Player Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 912 Rep Power: 48590	Re: Whatever Happened to Khalif Wyatt? RA's have the power to just point their finger and get students expelled from school? I don't think so.

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clark1a Player Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 872 Rep Power: 5366	Re: Whatever Happened to Khalif Wyatt? Just wondering if the person caught soliciting was a head or asst coach, would they still be employed? Anybody?

09-25-2012, 04:13 PM	#41 (permalink)
clark1a Player Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 872 Rep Power: 5366	Re: Whatever Happened to Khalif Wyatt? Oh really. You didn't answer what should or would have happened. In the Wyatt case, Temple dropped the ball, kid should sit for a game or 2. That would serve as a better teaching moment, not a prepared statement and pay $1000. From the sound of some TU faithful, kid needs a attitude adjustment. This was a blown opportunity. But we'll see where and how it plays out.

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