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DukesDan · 10-28-2012, 03:49 PM

Duquesne:

8 Loss of TJ McConnell, and the many season ticket holders that came with him

4 Loss of Mike Talley

1 Loss of Danny Herrera

3 Loss of Mamadou Datt until end of first semester

7 Firing of Ron Everhart

3 Missing out on Rene Castro

5 Missing out on hiring Keith Dambrot of Akron

belocki · 10-28-2012, 04:20 PM

st joe, still has martelli as the coach

Mulder · 10-29-2012, 08:42 AM

Duquesne lost its two point guards in Mike Talley and perhaps its best in some time in T.J. McConnell, both transferring. Of those graduating, B.J. Montiero may have been the greatest loss though some liked PT Eric Evans who had a few good moments.

And we fired coach Ron Everhart and hired LIU's Jim Ferry.

Others can offer a more informed opinion but in mine - the loss of the 2 guards, esp. TJ, would be devastating to any program assuming the program had other players around it that would have made us a top team. But the team devolved essentially into relying on McConnell, did not have much height, and didn't always play inspired.

The firing of Everhart created quite stir among many especially considering a leaked memo from the President on why. Whether that firing made sense or not is irrelevant to this discussion. Hard to know whether Ferry is a step up or a similar type coach. But he has taken a team to the NCAA, something Everhart was never able to do. Ferry showed something in the scramble to get recruits where it appears he did a decent job in a limited time frame. Only time will tell.

Again, others will have much better insights. Overall, I rate the setbacks as a whole at about a 7. The biggest loss, McConnell, is only a big deal if there were sufficient supporting players around him to give Duquesne something to work with. Some would say the recruits we lost with Everhart's firing would have made a difference but somehow I don't see that as key.

Jonathan Watters · 10-29-2012, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by AdamtheFlyer

I'll rate Butler's a 6. They're left with a PG who's really a SG and they are expecting a freshman to do big things. A senior guard, Chase Stigall, is a big ol' nope. They may be able to shoot jumpers, but I think they will struggle to stop other guards and create points for their teammates.

That is the interesting thing about Butler. Stevens has always been a defense-oriented coach, last year's team was an epic disaster on offense and elite defensively. Stevens will clearly be tested on that end of the floor, but he should still have one of the top defensive froncourts in the conference and the offense projects to be dramatically improved. I can't wait to see how it all works out...

bostonspider · 11-01-2012, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SpiderInTheMixingBowl

Richmond - Alonzo Nelson-Ododa, red-shirt frosh and projected starter is suspended. He was recently charged in relation to an incident that took place two years ago during a high-school practice. He is still allowed to practice with the team. Fans are hopeful that extenuating circumstances will allow him to have his suspension lifted soon.

ANO has been reinstated and is expected to start at the Randolph Macon scrimmage..

Bill Russell · 11-01-2012, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bostonspider

ANO has been reinstated and is expected to start at the Randolph Macon scrimmage..

ANO. KA. VCU. RVA. The city of Richmond loves its acronyms.

SpiderInTheMixingBowl · 11-01-2012, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Russell

ANO. KA. VCU. RVA. The city of Richmond loves its acronyms.

It's nothing compared to the OOCAUTCOBFIDOD (Out of Control Acronym Usage That Can Only Be Found in DOD).

SpiderDave19 · 11-01-2012, 01:22 PM

NDAI

(No Doubt About It)

10-28-2012, 03:49 PM	#16 (permalink)
DukesDan Veteran Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,135 Rep Power: 15970	Re: A10 Setback Consolidation Duquesne: 8 Loss of TJ McConnell, and the many season ticket holders that came with him 4 Loss of Mike Talley 1 Loss of Danny Herrera 3 Loss of Mamadou Datt until end of first semester 7 Firing of Ron Everhart 3 Missing out on Rene Castro 5 Missing out on hiring Keith Dambrot of Akron __________________ Duquesne Dukes: 2012 A10 tournament qualifier!! 2012-2013 Locks of the Day TBA 2011-2012 Locks of the Day NIT participant 29-26-0...... .527 2010-2011 Locks of the Day Regular Season Champion 31-20-4 ..... .600 #15 Cooper #11 Green #10 Nixon #12 Ricketts #24 Somerset

10-28-2012, 04:20 PM	#17 (permalink)
belocki 6th Man Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 389 Rep Power: 1920	Re: A10 Setback Consolidation st joe, still has martelli as the coach

10-29-2012, 08:42 AM	#18 (permalink)
Mulder Benchwarmer Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 248 Rep Power: 9157	Re: A10 Setback Consolidation Duquesne lost its two point guards in Mike Talley and perhaps its best in some time in T.J. McConnell, both transferring. Of those graduating, B.J. Montiero may have been the greatest loss though some liked PT Eric Evans who had a few good moments. And we fired coach Ron Everhart and hired LIU's Jim Ferry. Others can offer a more informed opinion but in mine - the loss of the 2 guards, esp. TJ, would be devastating to any program assuming the program had other players around it that would have made us a top team. But the team devolved essentially into relying on McConnell, did not have much height, and didn't always play inspired. The firing of Everhart created quite stir among many especially considering a leaked memo from the President on why. Whether that firing made sense or not is irrelevant to this discussion. Hard to know whether Ferry is a step up or a similar type coach. But he has taken a team to the NCAA, something Everhart was never able to do. Ferry showed something in the scramble to get recruits where it appears he did a decent job in a limited time frame. Only time will tell. Again, others will have much better insights. Overall, I rate the setbacks as a whole at about a 7. The biggest loss, McConnell, is only a big deal if there were sufficient supporting players around him to give Duquesne something to work with. Some would say the recruits we lost with Everhart's firing would have made a difference but somehow I don't see that as key.

11-01-2012, 01:22 PM	#23 (permalink)
SpiderDave19 Player Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 912 Rep Power: 48590	Re: A10 Setback Consolidation NDAI (No Doubt About It)

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