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Old 11-02-2012, 02:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Off Topic - Sandy

I have read online today about the suffering in Staten Island after Sandy hit. It is very sad to read about and see on television.

I will say, as a Hurricane Ike survivor that I understand the short tempers, but find it a little over the top that power crews are being shouted out and having eggs thrown at them. In Houston, they were cheered. They would have gotten cold cokes and beer, except no one had any power or anything cold to drink.

What does not surprise me is the reception the Red Cross is getting. They earned all the scorn that was heaped on them after Ike. And they are getting it in spades in NY now. In NJ they are serving only coffee, hot chocolate and cookies - no real food. Pathetic.

The only ones who did anything of value on the Gulf Coast were local churches and the Salvation Army. The rest of them were just taking up space.
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I have read online today about the suffering in Staten Island after Sandy hit. It is very sad to read about and see on television.

I will say, as a Hurricane Ike survivor that I understand the short tempers, but find it a little over the top that power crews are being shouted out and having eggs thrown at them. In Houston, they were cheered. They would have gotten cold cokes and beer, except no one had any power or anything cold to drink.

What does not surprise me is the reception the Red Cross is getting. They earned all the scorn that was heaped on them after Ike. And they are getting it in spades in NY now. In NJ they are serving only coffee, hot chocolate and cookies - no real food. Pathetic.

The only ones who did anything of value on the Gulf Coast were local churches and the Salvation Army. The rest of them were just taking up space.
Yes, these Hurricanes are unfortunate events. Bush got blamed for not "protecting" people from the storm. Obama will get criticism for not getting people in Staten Island and areas of NJ relief before their power is restored or before they have to wait in long lines for gas.

Please do not "boo" the runners if you go to the NYC Marathon. Many of the runners have collected thousands of dollars in donation for a worthy charity.

Please send a donation to Catholic Charities, USA and specify "Sandy Relief".
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marathon has been cancelled, and all i've heard in applause for Obama and his response
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Old 11-02-2012, 03:14 PM   #4 (permalink)
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It was the right decision to cancel the marathon. I haven't yet heard the applause for Obama - not saying it's not there, just haven't yet been exposed to it. The marathon would have required the dedication of too many limited resources that are desperately needed for helping those impacted by the storm. The NYC Marathon is a wonderful event, but the circumstances resulting from Sandy are much more important.
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That's part of the problem with the coverage. Parts of NY and NJ are suffering and there are real concerns over food and gas shortages and many don't have power. This is Obama's "Katrina" and he is starting to understand why you can't just go back to campaigning as people are still in need.

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As of noon today, New Jersey is implementing a gas rationing system based on the last number of your license plate (odd/even) in 12 of its counties.People with gas cans can go on any day to fill the cans. NJ is I believe one of two states where you cannot by law pump your own gas. A service station employee has to do it. Numerous utility company employees from many states are now in the area. Military flew in crews and their trucks from the west coast. Alot of natural gas and propane lines are broken. While an odorizer is added to help detect leaks, apparently sand acts as a filter for the odorizer making clean-up especially tough in some beach areas.
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Re: Off Topic - Sandy

I have to second Rusty's endorsement of the Salvation Army. After Katrina, I was very impressed by them. Have donated ever since. If they got the money the Red Cross gets there would be more than coffee and donuts up there, that's for sure.
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Steve - your ludicrous statements demand a response so I'll keep it simple to say that you're wrong in your biased judgments of the response.

I live in NYC, work next to ground zero (office closed all week) and have a second job that is down the NJ shore in an area that was hard-hit with extensive damage.

It is no surprise that Manhattan was the focus of the coverage, as it had the most widespread power outage (affecting the most people) and is where the studios are located. NYC by itself is the 17th largest economy in the world and Manhattan is the driving force behind that. Make no mistake that as Manhattan goes, so goes the rest of NYC. The loss of subways and the flooding and blackout in Manhattan cast a far shadow across more than just the people directly affected by their loss. Additional coverage focused on places like the Rockaways where a fire raged out of control and burned 60 homes down. Thursday night it became evident that Staten Island needed more attention, late that night coverage began to shift out there as reports came in - again, without power or connectivity, it took time for these reports to come in since it wasn't where the studios are. Ironically, many first responders live on Staten Island - it is home to a great deal of NYC police and firefighters. I'm familiar with it, having worked a political campaign there in 1997, and am friends with a SI assemblyman from that campaign, whom you may have heard interviewed in the past couple days. The marathon should have been cancelled on Tuesday or Wednesday at the latest once it became evident of the damage and needs the city had, but the NYC mayor - not the president - was making that call and thought it would bring a measure of attention to relief efforts. Unfortunately, when you have a billionaire politician, they're not always the most attuned to the plight of the normal person and he can be tone-deaf at times in his decisions.

Anyway, in situations with no precedent, there are often mistakes made, but overall the response has been diligent and courageous. I can't speak firsthand to specific relief agencies and how they may be doing things, but try to keep things in perspective of people doing their best.
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Re: Off Topic - Sandy

Having been through a few storms, I have come to realize there is definately a patern to the restoration, and unfortunately the residential areas are generally lowest on the list. If you are fortunate to be near a power station, a fire station, a rescue squad, a hospital, you get helped first. Unfortunatley I'm not. In addition I'm "on a grid of one". That usually puts me one of the last ones to receive aid, I've learned to cope. I feel for these people on SI and elsewhere, I've sent off several donations already and intend to do more when I can, remember these organizations use their reserves to make it through something like this and will need cash to build for the next need. Thoughts and prayers to all that are suffering.
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i also live and work in Manhattan and am just thankful this was a category 1 storm. We have always known we were vulnerable and if this was our Katrina, we should kiss the ground that we didn't get a category 3 or worse.
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