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PM Thor · 11-15-2012, 07:40 PM

It's going to be epic when Xavier loses for the first time this season...if that happens. Heh.

xavierhoops · 11-15-2012, 08:37 PM

Why would that be "epic"?

Schickrateez · 11-16-2012, 05:48 AM

Just to let you all know, I know exactly how and where each team in the A-10 will finish this year. I have been 100% accurate for the past 13 years. I simply choose not to share this information with the likes of you.

SpiderDave19 · 11-16-2012, 05:50 AM

Awesome. You and Z8Minute(man) should go to Vegas.

Schickrateez · 11-16-2012, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SpiderDave19

Awesome. You and Z8Minute(man) should go to Vegas.

If this was directed at me, the answer is and always will be "no". Please, do not be jealous of my abilities, just because you can't see them, does not mean they don't exist.

UMass87 · 11-16-2012, 12:47 PM

Has anyone seen Title_BU?

X-band '01 · 11-16-2012, 05:07 PM

He's hiding somewhere along I-74 back to Indianapolis.

MudFlap · 11-20-2012, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by WH

Seems like we saw much of the same thing last night, A-flyer, though I am a bit more charitable to Butler. I think they will get much better, though not challenge for the league title. We'll see.

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Originally Posted by Flyer75

Some of us didn't buy into the horsecrap that Butler was a 3rd-5th place team in this league. Some of that was X themselves and how well they played but as Adam said, Butler is very near the bottom of this league in horses.

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Originally Posted by paulxu

Just like with us, it's probably way to early in the year to know what the hell will happen. Stevens and Smart will adjust from these loses and get better. Their history of success proves they have that coaching capability. My point of course was that Mack is a good coach too.

Nice win for BU over Marquette (not a bcs school but generally quite good at basketball). Maybe their relevant again. Horses looked better.

AdamtheFlyer · 11-20-2012, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MudFlap

Nice win for BU over Marquette (not a bcs school but generally quite good at basketball). Maybe their relevant again. Horses looked better.

Butler played very well. They played as hard as they can play for 40 minutes. Khyle Marshall was the best player on the floor for either team. And they still needed a near miraculous shot to beat a rather ordinary Marquette team.

We're all happy for Butler. That was a great win for the league, the second best win we've had so far in this early season. We'll see if it has bigger significance for their season. I suspect not. UNC probably runs them out of the gym today, but that means nothing, they'd probably run all of us (save maybe SJU and Temple) out of the gym right now. Unfortunately for them, their third game is likely to be a glorified exhibition against Chaminade.

butlerway · 11-20-2012, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MudFlap

Nice win for BU over Marquette (not a bcs school but generally quite good at basketball). Maybe their relevant again. Horses looked better.

Is this some sort of inside joke I've missed?

xudash · 11-20-2012, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by butlerway

Is this some sort of inside joke I've missed?

No. Marquette isn't a BCS school - - it doesn't play D1A football. It presently is a member of a hybrid BCS conference, but a conference that is about to lose its BCS designation.

I know what you're thinking and you're right for perception purposes, but thin is the BCS blanket that presently wraps around a small number of Catholic hoops schools. It is thin, it is tattered, and it's about to fall off.

MudFlap · 11-20-2012, 10:21 AM

It's gonna be crazy this year. Nice job by BU. These last second heroics may be the norm in the A-10 this year. Nice to have BU and VCU join the party. Don't think anybody's gonna run the table for sure. Should be fun.

vcurams05 · 11-20-2012, 10:40 AM

Crazy finish and nice win by Butler. For the BU fans out there, What are your impressions of Rotnei Clarke at the point? My immediate thought when hearing this was it would mess up his offensive game. I know he put up some points yesterday but I see he is 10-31 from 3 in the first 3 games. That is not exactly what was expected of maybe the best shooter in the country as far as career numbers go. Any thoughts?

TheCobra · 11-20-2012, 02:02 PM

Man, Mudflap. No respect or anything, but that is one bad (as in good) Xavier female in your picture.

X Factor · 11-20-2012, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by AdamtheFlyer

I think the biggest thing you can take away from this game is that Xavier is very athletic, which just about everyone knew, and Butler is not. The game started way too fast for Butler, and once it slowed down they were too far behind, and a step too slow, to make up ground.

Of course it was just one game, but a sheer lack of athleticism is not subject to the sample size caveat. That's something that's going to hinder Butler all season long. They did well guarding Xavier's base offense, but absolutely could not handle them in transition or in late possession ad-libs.

Rotnei Clarke is a great shooter and it looks like Dunham can be as well, but that means very little if they have to work for every jump shot. And defensively they got rocked. They'll have nights where one or both light it up, but all in all that's a below average A10 backcourt. Smith and Fromm are going to get abused by A10 bigs. The athletes (Jones and Marshall) don't have the skill to consistently burn athletic defenses.

Coaching and a great home court will get Butler 6 or 7 A10 wins. I'm not sure I see more than 8-8 for them. I think Butler is a couple of years from being a true contender for a league title. They need athletes, and they need them to be experienced. It will take some time.

Good analysis here.

11-15-2012, 07:40 PM	#76 (permalink)
PM Thor Star Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Victory Parkway Posts: 2,552 Rep Power: 177563	Re: Xavier v Butler, Butler v Xavier It's going to be epic when Xavier loses for the first time this season...if that happens. Heh. __________________ Xavier: Undefeated in Big East Conference Play

11-15-2012, 08:37 PM	#77 (permalink)
xavierhoops Player Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 864 Rep Power: 260320	Re: Xavier v Butler, Butler v Xavier Why would that be "epic"? __________________ Chris Mack in 3 years at Xavier has had twice the NCAA wins (4) of the entire Dayton coaching staff in the modern era of NCAA basketball (2).

11-16-2012, 05:48 AM	#78 (permalink)
Schickrateez Rookie Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 51 Rep Power: 3004	Re: Xavier v Butler, Butler v Xavier Just to let you all know, I know exactly how and where each team in the A-10 will finish this year. I have been 100% accurate for the past 13 years. I simply choose not to share this information with the likes of you.

11-16-2012, 05:50 AM	#79 (permalink)
SpiderDave19 Player Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 912 Rep Power: 48590	Re: Xavier v Butler, Butler v Xavier Awesome. You and Z8Minute(man) should go to Vegas. Last edited by xu95; 11-16-2012 at 06:13 AM. Reason: Edited the name

11-16-2012, 12:47 PM	#81 (permalink)
UMass87 Star Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,727 Rep Power: 226644	Re: Xavier v Butler, Butler v Xavier Has anyone seen Title_BU?

11-16-2012, 05:07 PM	#82 (permalink)
X-band '01 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Montgomery, OH Age: 34 Posts: 1,480 Rep Power: 147698	Re: Xavier v Butler, Butler v Xavier He's hiding somewhere along I-74 back to Indianapolis.

11-20-2012, 10:21 AM	#87 (permalink)
MudFlap Star Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Victory Parkway Xavier University Posts: 3,607 Rep Power: 150436	Re: Xavier v Butler, Butler v Xavier It's gonna be crazy this year. Nice job by BU. These last second heroics may be the norm in the A-10 this year. Nice to have BU and VCU join the party. Don't think anybody's gonna run the table for sure. Should be fun.

11-20-2012, 10:40 AM	#88 (permalink)
vcurams05 Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 220 Rep Power: 832	Re: Xavier v Butler, Butler v Xavier Crazy finish and nice win by Butler. For the BU fans out there, What are your impressions of Rotnei Clarke at the point? My immediate thought when hearing this was it would mess up his offensive game. I know he put up some points yesterday but I see he is 10-31 from 3 in the first 3 games. That is not exactly what was expected of maybe the best shooter in the country as far as career numbers go. Any thoughts?

11-20-2012, 02:02 PM	#89 (permalink)
TheCobra 6th Man Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 334 Rep Power: 9521	Re: Xavier v Butler, Butler v Xavier Man, Mudflap. No respect or anything, but that is one bad (as in good) Xavier female in your picture.

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