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Old 11-12-2012, 01:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Xavier v Butler, Butler v Xavier

This is really shaping up to be an interesting tilt. This may be the perfect year for the two teams to play each other twice.
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Old 11-12-2012, 01:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Have no idea if X is any good. This might give us a clue, think we will struggle to score against team playing real D. Look forward to the game, wish it wasn't at 1 PM my time here in California.

Look forward to seeing the boys in person in Anaheim next week
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Man-o-man... I just hope the A-10 can score a nice out of conference win in this one!
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How does the "A10 Suck Factor" work in this game exactly?
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Old 11-12-2012, 06:18 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Have no idea if X is any good. This might give us a clue, think we will struggle to score against team playing real D.
I was actually thinking the opposite, as in will X play any D.
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Xavier Meets Butler in College Hoops Tip-Off Marathon (Shannon Russell, Cincinnati Enquirer - November 12, 2012)










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Man-o-man... I just hope the A-10 can score a nice out of conference win in this one!
Hope so. Seems like a good chance yet another A10 team misses a chance for a huge OOC win.
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Re: Xavier v Butler, Butler v Xavier

It's the classic zero-sum game according to Snipe.
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It's the classic zero-sum game according to Snipe.
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Re: Xavier v Butler, Butler v Xavier

Butler definitely has some question marks, but X looked much better than I expected. They may not have the individual talent, or depth, Xavier fans are used to, but they appear to play far more disciplined defense and share the ball very well. This team will look more like the Miller era teams than Mack's first 3 teams it appears. Not a bad thing. Mack has all his guys and nobody who still thinks of him as the assistant.
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If there is one thing that successful A10 teams have had in the recent past it is a player(s) that can create. Butler has no player that can do that (like numerous Temple players, Tu, Lyons, Anderson, Mitchell, etc).
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BTW, XU had much better passing and movement than in the recent past. What X may have a short roster their top 6 are all talented players, just ones who haven't yet put it together but it sure looks to me that without a star they are much more team oriented.
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Re: Xavier v Butler, Butler v Xavier

Xavier definitely looked better than I thought they would. Butler also looked a little worse, though good D can do that to a team.

I think the big issue for Xavier is the depth. How many injuries can they sustain? What about foul trouble on the road, which either results in starters spending time on the bench or playing tentative D? I'm sure X fans probably are pleasantly surprised so far though. Nice win.
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Xavier has already exceeded expectation and they are just 2-0! If youi believed the doom and gloom of the off season than as I have said in this forum before you downplay coaching....Mack can flat out coach and if he gets 100% out if his talent game in and game out they will be in those games!
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