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Flyer75 · 10-05-2012, 05:47 PM

So how bad does it hurt VCU to have two ineligible this year.

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paulxu · 10-05-2012, 06:46 PM

OK, I know our Musketeer is a little weird looking, and the Blue Blob is .....well, the Blue Blob.

But all of those Rams look like dogs with horns for some reason.
Each one of them has a face that looks like a cartoon dog character.

DistrictBaller · 10-05-2012, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Flyer75

So how bad does it hurt VCU to have two ineligible this year.

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It's not ideal from a depth standpoint and bit of a personal bummer for many of our fans since Burgess had the connection with his brother playing here the last 4 years.

It doesn't change too much other than cutting into our bench depth since both were not expected to get much more than bench minutes. There are a lot of returnees on the squad and young players at their positions.

It's not ideal and it doesn't help us or the players from a development standpoint, but it's not as bad as Xavier's situation since they needed bodies.

TheCobra · 10-06-2012, 10:09 AM

DB, after reading your synopsis of VCU's current SG depth (which I assume is what Burgess played based on size and his brother's game), it looks like you guys should be able to handle his loss without much trouble. The late Johnson pickup becomes even bigger now.

antboy · 10-06-2012, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DistrictBaller

It's not ideal from a depth standpoint and bit of a personal bummer for many of our fans since Burgess had the connection with his brother playing here the last 4 years.

It doesn't change too much other than cutting into our bench depth since both were not expected to get much more than bench minutes. There are a lot of returnees on the squad and young players at their positions.

It's not ideal and it doesn't help us or the players from a development standpoint, but it's not as bad as Xavier's situation since they needed bodies.

VCU certainly isn't in as tough a situation as Xavier. But my impression is VCU's style needs lots of bodies to keep up that high-pressure D. I would've guessed even if Burgess only got backup minutes, he probably wouldn't have been at the end of the bench.

Probably not a huge effect, but could cost a game or two, especially later in the year when presumably we'd expect the freshmen to start to "get it" and contribute more.

DistrictBaller · 10-06-2012, 11:12 AM

We'll still have 12 bodies ready to go.

In fact Shaka settled into an 8 man rotation last year of which 7 players are back. I think we'll be pretty fine, but time will tell.

urmite · 10-06-2012, 01:58 PM

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We'll still have 12 bodies ready to go.

In fact Shaka settled into an 8 man rotation last year of which 7 players are back. I think we'll be pretty fine, but time will tell.

The original roster was 14 is someone a walk on? Actually I can't figure out who wouldn't be good enough for a scholarship.

VCUBusinessGrad · 10-06-2012, 04:07 PM

David Hinton is a non-scholarship player for VCU.

DistrictBaller · 10-06-2012, 04:51 PM

Yeah Hinton is a redshirt senior who was a recruited walk-on by Anthony Grant. The last player connected to the Anthony Grant years at VCU.

DistrictBaller · 10-08-2012, 06:53 AM

Highlights from VCU's trip to Italy:

urmite · 10-08-2012, 01:26 PM

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Yeah Hinton is a redshirt senior who was a recruited walk-on by Anthony Grant. The last player connected to the Anthony Grant years at VCU.

I don't see a lot of 6'9" walk-ons.

DistrictBaller · 10-08-2012, 02:27 PM

Haha yeah David Hinton is one of them. Good kid. Graduated last spring and working on his Master's degree now. He's no star but he gives us post depth and plays hard when he gets minutes. He usually comes in when the game is out of hand, but he played crucial minutes in our first-round win over Wichita State when our bigs were in foul trouble and brought a lot of energy and hustle, played good defense, and took charges.

DistrictBaller · 10-09-2012, 07:37 AM

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcspor...oise-in-march/

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Who could be the teams to watch out for as we get ready to begin the 2012-13 season? Take a look below at NBCSports.com’s Mid-Major Watch List.

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VCU

It seems that Shaka Smart has his squad in the mid-major mix every season, and this year he’ll have to do it in a new conference: the Atlantic-10.

Darius Theus and Juvonte Reddic are two of the biggest returners for the Rams, along with shooter Troy Daniels and sophomore Treveon Graham.

Smart and the Rams got a gift in the late recruiting period, as Miami commit Melvin Johnson decommitted and pledged his name to VCU. A New York native, Johnson brings more shooting and scoring ability, likely off the bench.

Take these pieces and add it to Smart’s system, his patented “havoc” defense, and the Rams are in position to win the Atlantic-10 in their first season in the league.

St. Joe's and Saint Louis are also mentioned in the article.

DistrictBaller · 10-09-2012, 09:18 AM

VCU's 2012 preseason strength and conditioning video:

DistrictBaller · 10-10-2012, 08:10 AM

VCU is #23 in CBSSports.com's Preseason Top 25: http://www.cbssports.com/collegebask...iews/no-23-vcu

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Why this team will be good: Last year VCU set a school record by winning 29 games -- and it did it with almost all defense. Suffocating, frenzied, chaotic-as-hell D. At A-10 media day, Smart said his team will be "much more able offensively" but will still run the "HAVOC" defense that led it to have such a great season in 2011-12. But beyond that, look at the personnel. You can see how Brad Burgess is the only departing player of impact. And Burgess was really good. But Melvin Johnson is a top-100 player that Smart and his staff got to Richmond. (Jordan Burgess is another, but he was ruled a partial qualifier for 2012-13. Stud frosh, too.)

Talent-wise, this looks to be the best team Smart's had in his four years. There are plenty of capable guards on this team -- maybe too many, as if that's a problem. VCU will tire the hell out of teams. If it can up its effective field goal percentage from 47.6 (last year's number) even to 50 percent (an average mark), VCU will almost definitely be a top-three team in the league, as it's prognosticated.

Why this team might disappoint: The league is so good and the Rams' offense has to prove itself against a conference that had nine teams average more than a point per possession. The Atlantic 10 would be a step up from the CAA in normal circumstances, but when you factor in how six teams in this conference received first-place votes, you understand just how good the A-10 will be. And remember, VCU didn't even win the CAA last year; Drexel took it. So if the expectation level for VCU is now automatic tournament berths and at least one win (VCU "upset" Wichita State in a 12-5 matchup in Portland last March), then yes, it could disappoint. Smart knows success isn't guaranteed, and he really cautions people against thinking too highly of him or his team. He's got good players and has won in tight spots, but nothing is promised. VCU is a good program on a nice run right now. We simply don't know how it will adapt to its new league.

Also, VCU gets hurt with Jordan Burgess being a partial qualifer. Freshman Mo Alie-Cox is the other player who got hit by the NCAA, but chances are he wouldn't have even factored into VCU's plans this year.

10-05-2012, 06:46 PM	#107 (permalink)
paulxu Veteran Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,409 Rep Power: 309022	re: The VCU Rams OK, I know our Musketeer is a little weird looking, and the Blue Blob is .....well, the Blue Blob. But all of those Rams look like dogs with horns for some reason. Each one of them has a face that looks like a cartoon dog character. __________________ *...he went up late, and I was already up there.*

10-06-2012, 10:09 AM	#109 (permalink)
TheCobra 6th Man Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 334 Rep Power: 9521	re: The VCU Rams DB, after reading your synopsis of VCU's current SG depth (which I assume is what Burgess played based on size and his brother's game), it looks like you guys should be able to handle his loss without much trouble. The late Johnson pickup becomes even bigger now.

10-06-2012, 11:12 AM	#111 (permalink)
DistrictBaller Veteran Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 1,163 Rep Power: 47841	re: The VCU Rams We'll still have 12 bodies ready to go. In fact Shaka settled into an 8 man rotation last year of which 7 players are back. I think we'll be pretty fine, but time will tell. __________________ "We will wreak havoc on our opponent's psyche and plan of attack." - VCU Head Coach Shaka Smart

10-06-2012, 04:07 PM	#113 (permalink)
VCUBusinessGrad Rookie Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	re: The VCU Rams David Hinton is a non-scholarship player for VCU.

10-06-2012, 04:51 PM	#114 (permalink)
DistrictBaller Veteran Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 1,163 Rep Power: 47841	re: The VCU Rams Yeah Hinton is a redshirt senior who was a recruited walk-on by Anthony Grant. The last player connected to the Anthony Grant years at VCU. __________________ "We will wreak havoc on our opponent's psyche and plan of attack." - VCU Head Coach Shaka Smart

10-05-2012, 05:47 PM	#106 (permalink)
Flyer75 Star Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 3,856 Rep Power: 37278	So how bad does it hurt VCU to have two ineligible this year. Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using VerticalSports.Com App

10-08-2012, 06:53 AM	#115 (permalink)
DistrictBaller Veteran Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 1,163 Rep Power: 47841	re: The VCU Rams Highlights from VCU's trip to Italy: __________________ "We will wreak havoc on our opponent's psyche and plan of attack." - VCU Head Coach Shaka Smart

10-08-2012, 02:27 PM	#117 (permalink)
DistrictBaller Veteran Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 1,163 Rep Power: 47841	re: The VCU Rams Haha yeah David Hinton is one of them. Good kid. Graduated last spring and working on his Master's degree now. He's no star but he gives us post depth and plays hard when he gets minutes. He usually comes in when the game is out of hand, but he played crucial minutes in our first-round win over Wichita State when our bigs were in foul trouble and brought a lot of energy and hustle, played good defense, and took charges. __________________ "We will wreak havoc on our opponent's psyche and plan of attack." - VCU Head Coach Shaka Smart

10-09-2012, 09:18 AM	#119 (permalink)
DistrictBaller Veteran Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 1,163 Rep Power: 47841	re: The VCU Rams VCU's 2012 preseason strength and conditioning video: __________________ "We will wreak havoc on our opponent's psyche and plan of attack." - VCU Head Coach Shaka Smart

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