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rworkman09 · 11-25-2012, 02:37 PM

That destruction was helped by Javarris Barnett shooting 5-6 from 3 though. Hopefully someone can step up into that role, but he was a nightmare of a matchup for a team like Davidson.

I expect to beat ECU, not as confident about Davidson, but still optimistic.

If we start 8-0 I'll be very very excited.

rworkman09 · 12-06-2012, 07:13 AM

Can we get a little love, A10 fans?

What an incredible start for the Niners.

Even more exciting is that we start 3 freshmen and 2 sophs...and they all contribute. Clark and Clayton are just beasting. Last night they combined to be 13-17 from the field for 26 points and 15 rebounds! Henry's stat line may have been even more impressive. 11 points, 8 rebounds, 4 steals, 5 assists.

The future looks bright for Niner fans!

WH · 12-06-2012, 07:29 AM

Well, I've given the Niners love several times! It was evident early on that this team has something going on. Henry is becoming a star and a leader - even without a consistent J - and the frontcourt bucks (Clayton and Clark) are unusually productive for young A-10 bigs.

Unfortunately, shooting will be a sore spot this year. Zone zone and more zone. My guess is it will preclude a top three finish, but I definitely think postseason play is a good possibility.

rworkman09 · 12-06-2012, 07:33 AM

Yeah shooting has definitely been a sore spot for us.

Williams is money on his 17 foot jumper, but move him back just behind the arc and he can't buy a bucket. I think he is 1-18 on the year from behind the arc now. Just terrible.

Ingram and Benkovich can shoot, but they don't see nearly as much floor time as the other guys and I don't expect that to change as we move into tougher competition from Miami, FSU, and A10 teams.

rusty X · 12-06-2012, 08:34 AM

After the Lutz years, and his obvious dislike of moving to the A10, I now wonder if Charlotte's return to the New, but hardly improved, CUSA will affect recruiting in the years to come. Right now, and in the last few years, the A10 has had a reputation of being a pretty darned good league. And, obviously, it has attracted some excellent players. And coaches.

Now that Charlotte is about to be dropped into a basketball cesspool that CUSA is, I have a hard time believing that Major will have as much success bringing in new talent. And, it is clear that Charlotte will not have the revenue that it does in the A10. I can only imagine what a CUSA television contract will look like when they are trying to sell Southern Miss, FIU, La. Tech, North Texas, UT-San Antonio, FAU, et. al to any kind of sports network. And, how would you like to try to sell basketball tickets when those teams play in Charlotte?

rworkman09 · 12-06-2012, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by rusty X

After the Lutz years, and his obvious dislike of moving to the A10, I now wonder if Charlotte's return to the New, but hardly improved, CUSA will affect recruiting in the years to come. Right now, and in the last few years, the A10 has had a reputation of being a pretty darned good league. And, obviously, it has attracted some excellent players. And coaches.

Now that Charlotte is about to be dropped into a basketball cesspool that CUSA is, I have a hard time believing that Major will have as much success bringing in new talent. And, it is clear that Charlotte will not have the revenue that it does in the A10. I can only imagine what a CUSA television contract will look like when they are trying to sell Southern Miss, FIU, La. Tech, North Texas, UT-San Antonio, FAU, et. al to any kind of sports network. And, how would you like to try to sell basketball tickets when those teams play in Charlotte?

Next year, even without our football in CUSA, our television revenue from the conference will be much higher than it was in the A10.

The A10 will never get a television contract like CUSA because it doesn't have football. Even mediocre football gets more money than good basketball.

CUSA has a few historically good programs in UAB, UTEP (who just signed a class that would make every team in the A10 jealous), ODU (having a bad year, but generally very good), Tulsa (always solid, but rarely a tournament team), and a Marshall program that has been fairly solid lately and continues to recruit well. Looks like WKU might be on the way in the near future as well.

It's not the A10, but it is not devoid of decent basketball programs. UTSA, FIU, and FAU were horrible adds that have gyms on par with LaSalle...but unlike LaSalle they can't offer recruits playing in a great league.

cdsniner · 12-06-2012, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusty X

After the Lutz years, and his obvious dislike of moving to the A10, I now wonder if Charlotte's return to the New, but hardly improved, CUSA will affect recruiting in the years to come. Right now, and in the last few years, the A10 has had a reputation of being a pretty darned good league. And, obviously, it has attracted some excellent players. And coaches.

Now that Charlotte is about to be dropped into a basketball cesspool that CUSA is, I have a hard time believing that Major will have as much success bringing in new talent. And, it is clear that Charlotte will not have the revenue that it does in the A10. I can only imagine what a CUSA television contract will look like when they are trying to sell Southern Miss, FIU, La. Tech, North Texas, UT-San Antonio, FAU, et. al to any kind of sports network. And, how would you like to try to sell basketball tickets when those teams play in Charlotte?

It will definitely hurt attendance at games imo but it seems Major has done a good job of selling Charlotte to the players and not the conference wish was Lutz problem and why he struggled to recruit when we moved to the A-10. It looks like Major is finally turning it around so I do hate to see us leaving the A-10 but would love to go out on a high note this year so our time here wasn't a complete failure.

Also, glad to see Braswell and the two young freshman using jump hooks this season. They have all looked comfortable shooting them and if done properly the shot is practically unguardable. Bras also seems to have continued his decent 3pt shooting from last season although he only shoots 1 or 2 a game. Athleticism will keep him out of the NBA but he has improved his offensive game enough to make good money overseas when his time at Charlotte comes to an end.

**BigE** · 12-06-2012, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rworkman09

It's not the A10, but it is not devoid of decent basketball programs. UTSA, FIU, and FAU were horrible adds that have gyms on par with LaSalle...but unlike LaSalle they can't offer recruits playing in a great league.

or offer an opportunity to play big schools @The Palestra

Chetburger · 12-06-2012, 07:53 PM

Impressed with what Charlotte has done so far. Quite honestly after watching one of the games in Alaska, I would have never seen it coming. They were pathetic and played like they had no coaching and no discipline. Terrible shot selection, terrible ball handling, poor hoops IQ, and no sense of time and score. Cant remember who they were playing but it was a nobody and the other team was just as bad.

Was told at the time it was an aberration and Charlotte just lost their gourds that game and decided to re-live their Leemire Goldwire Bobby Lutz days of Rucker Park basketball.

Apparently they were right.

austinniner · 12-06-2012, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chetburger

Impressed with what Charlotte has done so far. Quite honestly after watching one of the games in Alaska, I would have never seen it coming. They were pathetic and played like they had no coaching and no discipline. Terrible shot selection, terrible ball handling, poor hoops IQ, and no sense of time and score. Cant remember who they were playing but it was a nobody and the other team was just as bad.

Was told at the time it was an aberration and Charlotte just lost their gourds that game and decided to re-live their Leemire Goldwire Bobby Lutz days of Rucker Park basketball.

Apparently they were right.

sounds like you were watching the Texas State game

moss2k · 12-06-2012, 08:59 PM

I've talked with several people in the AAU circuit in areas Charlotte recruits, they personally didn't feel it would change our recruiting that much. At the moment we are landing 4 star players, you can certainly land 3 stars in CUSA.

Also, say Charlotte finished top 6 in A10 this year, we lose Braswell and JT Thompson. We'll be taking a ton of talent with us to CUSA and should be primed for a great first year there.

DukesDan · 12-07-2012, 08:42 AM

I am surprised by the 49ers. I wish you guys were not leaving.

Seems like CMU is very beatable but winning against Miami is extremely unlikely. If the 49ers beat Miami I think they will start to get serious national attention.

rworkman09 · 12-07-2012, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DukesDan

I am surprised by the 49ers. I wish you guys were not leaving.

Seems like CMU is very beatable but winning against Miami is extremely unlikely. If the 49ers beat Miami I think they will start to get serious national attention.

Yeah, I'm not expecting a win against Miami unfortunately, but I feel like we have a legit chance at a win against FSU. I'd be happy with that. It means we'd be 13-1 (maybe 14-1, not sure) going into conference play.

moss2k · 12-08-2012, 09:39 PM

Niners advanced to 9-0, CMU packed it in against us quite a bit, were able to go 8-22 from 3pt land. Big game next Friday, 7pm at Miami (FL).

11-25-2012, 02:37 PM	#16 (permalink)
rworkman09 Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 817 Rep Power: 600	Re: CHARLOTTE and RICHMOND That destruction was helped by Javarris Barnett shooting 5-6 from 3 though. Hopefully someone can step up into that role, but he was a nightmare of a matchup for a team like Davidson. I expect to beat ECU, not as confident about Davidson, but still optimistic. If we start 8-0 I'll be very very excited. __________________ Atlantic 10 Forum Charlotte 49ers Message Board

12-06-2012, 07:13 AM	#17 (permalink)
rworkman09 Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 817 Rep Power: 600	Re: CHARLOTTE and RICHMOND Can we get a little love, A10 fans? What an incredible start for the Niners. Even more exciting is that we start 3 freshmen and 2 sophs...and they all contribute. Clark and Clayton are just beasting. Last night they combined to be 13-17 from the field for 26 points and 15 rebounds! Henry's stat line may have been even more impressive. 11 points, 8 rebounds, 4 steals, 5 assists. The future looks bright for Niner fans! __________________ Atlantic 10 Forum Charlotte 49ers Message Board

12-06-2012, 07:29 AM	#18 (permalink)
WH Star Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,496 Rep Power: 319215	Re: CHARLOTTE and RICHMOND Well, I've given the Niners love several times! It was evident early on that this team has something going on. Henry is becoming a star and a leader - even without a consistent J - and the frontcourt bucks (Clayton and Clark) are unusually productive for young A-10 bigs. Unfortunately, shooting will be a sore spot this year. Zone zone and more zone. My guess is it will preclude a top three finish, but I definitely think postseason play is a good possibility.

12-06-2012, 07:33 AM	#19 (permalink)
rworkman09 Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 817 Rep Power: 600	Re: CHARLOTTE and RICHMOND Yeah shooting has definitely been a sore spot for us. Williams is money on his 17 foot jumper, but move him back just behind the arc and he can't buy a bucket. I think he is 1-18 on the year from behind the arc now. Just terrible. Ingram and Benkovich can shoot, but they don't see nearly as much floor time as the other guys and I don't expect that to change as we move into tougher competition from Miami, FSU, and A10 teams. __________________ Atlantic 10 Forum Charlotte 49ers Message Board

12-06-2012, 08:34 AM	#20 (permalink)
rusty X Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 780 Rep Power: 145273	Re: CHARLOTTE and RICHMOND After the Lutz years, and his obvious dislike of moving to the A10, I now wonder if Charlotte's return to the New, but hardly improved, CUSA will affect recruiting in the years to come. Right now, and in the last few years, the A10 has had a reputation of being a pretty darned good league. And, obviously, it has attracted some excellent players. And coaches. Now that Charlotte is about to be dropped into a basketball cesspool that CUSA is, I have a hard time believing that Major will have as much success bringing in new talent. And, it is clear that Charlotte will not have the revenue that it does in the A10. I can only imagine what a CUSA television contract will look like when they are trying to sell Southern Miss, FIU, La. Tech, North Texas, UT-San Antonio, FAU, et. al to any kind of sports network. And, how would you like to try to sell basketball tickets when those teams play in Charlotte? __________________ If you are going to have sex with an animal, make sure it is a horse. That way, if it does not work out, you always have a ride home. So sayeth Willie Nelson.

12-06-2012, 07:53 PM	#24 (permalink)
Chetburger Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,436 Rep Power: 13636	Re: CHARLOTTE and RICHMOND Impressed with what Charlotte has done so far. Quite honestly after watching one of the games in Alaska, I would have never seen it coming. They were pathetic and played like they had no coaching and no discipline. Terrible shot selection, terrible ball handling, poor hoops IQ, and no sense of time and score. Cant remember who they were playing but it was a nobody and the other team was just as bad. Was told at the time it was an aberration and Charlotte just lost their gourds that game and decided to re-live their Leemire Goldwire Bobby Lutz days of Rucker Park basketball. Apparently they were right. __________________ -------------- Head Coach Chester Chetburger, A10 Forum Hoops Touring Practice Squad "Shaving points for cash since 1997."

12-06-2012, 08:59 PM	#26 (permalink)
moss2k Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Winston-Salem Posts: 589 Rep Power: 482	Re: CHARLOTTE and RICHMOND I've talked with several people in the AAU circuit in areas Charlotte recruits, they personally didn't feel it would change our recruiting that much. At the moment we are landing 4 star players, you can certainly land 3 stars in CUSA. Also, say Charlotte finished top 6 in A10 this year, we lose Braswell and JT Thompson. We'll be taking a ton of talent with us to CUSA and should be primed for a great first year there. __________________ Charlotte 49ers message board

12-07-2012, 08:42 AM	#27 (permalink)
DukesDan Veteran Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,135 Rep Power: 15970	Re: CHARLOTTE and RICHMOND I am surprised by the 49ers. I wish you guys were not leaving. Seems like CMU is very beatable but winning against Miami is extremely unlikely. If the 49ers beat Miami I think they will start to get serious national attention. __________________ Duquesne Dukes: 2012 A10 tournament qualifier!! 2012-2013 Locks of the Day TBA 2011-2012 Locks of the Day NIT participant 29-26-0...... .527 2010-2011 Locks of the Day Regular Season Champion 31-20-4 ..... .600 #15 Cooper #11 Green #10 Nixon #12 Ricketts #24 Somerset

12-08-2012, 09:39 PM	#29 (permalink)
moss2k Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Winston-Salem Posts: 589 Rep Power: 482	Re: CHARLOTTE and RICHMOND Niners advanced to 9-0, CMU packed it in against us quite a bit, were able to go 8-22 from 3pt land. Big game next Friday, 7pm at Miami (FL). __________________ Charlotte 49ers message board

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