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Old 11-27-2012, 01:30 PM   #226 (permalink)
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Anybody got a link to the New Big East Roster (including ECU, Tulane), and older CUSA rosters to compare. I can't keep up.

BTW, going WAY outside the box, it is time for the BE basketball only schools (who's left? Nova, Gtown, St. Johns, Providence, Marquette, DePaulful,...) to just join the A10, form a mega conference, call it the Big League (or something obvious like the BBALL League) with two big divisions. Oh, and start a sports network. Add Creighton or cherry pick anybody else if we need too. We can split down geographic lines with less inter divisional play for the other Olympic sports and have two champions. With our new network, maybe partnering with NBC, we can then sell time to other "midmajors" if we need or want too. We can also get the rights to all FCS football games. Could make a good bit of money. Why not us?
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In 2014 Big "East" will be UConn, Louisville (2005), South Florida (2005), Cincinnati (2005), Tulane (2013), Temple (2012), Boise State (2012), San Diego State (2012), UCF (2012), SMU (2012), Memphis (2012), Houston (2012) and ECU(2013)

9 are former C-USA members, 2 MWC and 1 MAC

color of team match color of conference, year in parenthesis is last year in previous conference
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Old 11-27-2012, 01:45 PM   #228 (permalink)
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Either UConn and/or Louisville likely won't be in the Big "East" by 2014, don't you think? No way they stick around with that motley crew.

Twisted, that is the football schools. What about the basketball schools?
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In 2014 Big "East" will be UConn, Louisville (2005), South Florida (2005), Cincinnati (2005), Tulane (2013), Temple (2012), Boise State (2012), San Diego State (2012), UCF (2012), SMU (2012), Memphis (2012), Houston (2012) and ECU(2013)

9 are former C-USA members, 2 MWC and 1 MAC

color of team match color of conference, year in parenthesis is last year in previous conference

The only 4 time zone conference? Hello, Hawaii?
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Old 11-27-2012, 01:54 PM   #230 (permalink)
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non football teams remaining would be DePaul, Georgetown, Marquette, Providence College, St. John's, Seton Hall, Villanova

Of those teams only Marquette (CUSA, 2005) and DePaul (CUSA, 2005) weren't original members of the Big East
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Either UConn and/or Louisville likely won't be in the Big "East" by 2014, don't you think? No way they stick around with that motley crew.

Twisted, that is the football schools. What about the basketball schools?
Marquette was C-USA right? What about DePaul?


I doubt ECU will end up in the A10 for the rest of their sports, I'm guessing the CAA would be a more likely landing ground for that. Unless of course the A10 wants to soon become the A20 or something.
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there are 7 schools left for big east basketball, if the A14 joins them and pushes one out you have you A20 power basketball conference
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I've been an advocate for the A-10 going to 15 schools for a long time (my original hope was that Butler would be #15 and didn't envision losing Temple and certainly not Charlotte). If that is the route down the road after those 2 depart for greener pastures, I certainly pray ECU isn't #15. If that ever happens, George Mason seems like the odds on favorite, but I'd certainly consider Creighton, Cleveland State, Detroit or a number of other programs before ECU.
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I've been an advocate for the A-10 going to 15 schools for a long time (my original hope was that Butler would be #15 and didn't envision losing Temple and certainly not Charlotte). If that is the route down the road after those 2 depart for greener pastures, I certainly pray ECU isn't #15. If that ever happens, George Mason seems like the odds on favorite, but I'd certainly consider Creighton, Cleveland State, Detroit or a number of other programs before ECU.
Is the 15 just so there can be 3 groups of 5 for divisions?

I'd like to see how this year, with 16, plays out and then maybe stick with 16 if it went well and is possible.
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yeah i'de like to be 16 a with 2 divisions of 8, play 18 games in conference. 7 other division opponents home and away then 4 teams from the other division (2 home 2 away) then the other 4 the next season then the original 4 teams but opposite location as the first year.
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Cincy wants to join the ACC, so right now UCONN, Louisville and Cincy are all looking to join the ACC or at leas leave the Big East. If all 3 leave I see the Big East splitting Football from other sports or the Big East collapsing
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Is the 15 just so there can be 3 groups of 5 for divisions?

I'd like to see how this year, with 16, plays out and then maybe stick with 16 if it went well and is possible.
Well the 15 was both to get the A-10 back to divisional play, and b/c I thought Butler would be a great addition. Didn't envision losing Temple or UNCC at the time. VCU is a solid addition, I wouldn't go from 14 to 15 unless it was another solid addition. Creighton or George Mason qualify as solid additions in my mind. Not so sure about Cleveland state or Detroit. I'm sure there are a few more teams I would consider, ECU definently isn't on that list.

In light of what is going on now, I'd still like to get back to divisional play, and a 3x5 setup seems easiest, 4 home & aways w/ your division, 1 against everyone else, 18 total, division winers get a bye, top team after that gets the 4th bye, top 12 move on to Brooklyn to play in the A-10 championship. If your 13, 14 or 15, sorry we don't want you pulling an upset and knocking one of our own off the bubble. The A-10 is shaping up to be pretty good, but its not that good that leaving the last 3 teams at home should worry anyone but those fans of the last 3 teams.

Now on a 16 team setup, going 7 home & homes and 4 vs the other conference and not playing 4 teams from the other division wouldn't bother me. I've never been of the mindset that I need my team to play everyone in conference every season, just a few rivalaries I'd like to see protected. I don't like the setup we have this season (I know the A-10 was kind of forced into it given the time/situation) of playing 1 home & away, and 14 teams once.

At any rate, I know some have complained that adding teams in the past would only delute the TV money. I believe I've read that the A-10 makes $360k a year per team on their new deal. I'm not sure if that is based upon the current 16 teams this season or the 14 teams we'll have next season. If you assume its based upon 14 teams and adding 2 more solid programs doesn't get an increase in the TV deal, that still breaks down to $315k per team, a difference of $45k to add 2 solid programs or $24k to add 1 solid team in a 15 team setup. That little amount of money shouldn't make that big of a difference for any team wanting the best conference possible.

I'm just not sure if the teams that would make this conference better and worthy of addition starting next season are interested at this point.
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Re: More BCS realignment

Tulane and ECU (FB) to The Big East

Tulane University announced today at a news conference that it will join the Big East Conference in 2014. Tulane is currently a member of Conference USA.

http://www.nola.com/tulane/index.ssf...in_the_bi.html

East Carolina will join the rebuilding Big East for football only in 2014, a person familiar with the decision told The Associated Press.

The person spoke on condition of anonymity Tuesday because neither the conference nor the school was prepared to make an official announcement. East Carolina, located in Greenville, N.C., has a news conference scheduled for 5 p.m.


http://www.kttc.com/story/20196068/a...g-east-in-2014
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non football teams remaining would be DePaul, Georgetown, Marquette, Providence College, St. John's, Seton Hall, Villanova

Of those teams only Marquette (CUSA, 2005) and DePaul (CUSA, 2005) weren't original members of the Big East
Not to be "That Guy," but Villanova isn't an original Big East member. League formed in 1979 and they didn't sign on till a year later.


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yeah i'de like to be 16 a with 2 divisions of 8, play 18 games in conference. 7 other division opponents home and away then 4 teams from the other division (2 home 2 away) then the other 4 the next season then the original 4 teams but opposite location as the first year.
Why go with divisions at all? You're going to have an unbalanced schedule if you have more than 10 teams, why should you let geography tell you who plays whom twice? Pick the best TV matchups so we get more money.

Or better yet, play everyone once (plus one rival twice) and let us all pick up more OOC wins and have artificially higher RPIs like the Mountain West.

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Tulane and ECU (FB) to The Big East

Tulane University announced today at a news conference that it will join the Big East Conference in 2014. Tulane is currently a member of Conference USA.

http://www.nola.com/tulane/index.ssf...in_the_bi.html

East Carolina will join the rebuilding Big East for football only in 2014, a person familiar with the decision told The Associated Press.

The person spoke on condition of anonymity Tuesday because neither the conference nor the school was prepared to make an official announcement. East Carolina, located in Greenville, N.C., has a news conference scheduled for 5 p.m.


http://www.kttc.com/story/20196068/a...g-east-in-2014
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