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Old 12-11-2012, 10:57 AM   #511 (permalink)
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Unfortunately or fortunately depending on what you wish you,

The BE7 will not have the Big East label with the ESPN confirmation of Temple having full voting rights, the basketball schools can only leave and leave with paying whatever the exit fee is. If they want too. $10 million I believe it is.. For those schools, good luck paying that with lesser TV revenue and overall income... Maybe they can settle for $5 million but still to pay that for less overall income.. Goodness Boards are going to hate that and frankly from a business sense will probably say no.
They won't pay the exit fee, that would be terrible business. But all it takes is one more football school to announce they are leaving to shift the votes in their favor. They sat back and waited, and it got them significantly less money and zero stability. Once they get a chance, they will move quickly. If the money is forever going to be less, and it is, stability becomes their only option.

That's the key. When (not if, when) one or a combination of UConn, Cincy, Boise or SDSU announce they are leaving, I think there a real push to dissolve the league. It may never even make it to a vote. Once the basketball 7 make it known they will dissolve the league, the football schools will scatter quicker than frightened bats. The Big East lives, and the schools are free to poach whatever basketball schools they please.
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:04 AM   #512 (permalink)
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Well, at least one thing is certain, and that is the A-10 put itself in a much better position with the additions of Butler and VCU. I really like the A-10 and out place in it and hope it sticks around in its most recent iteration.

When the Big East splinters, and it will happen, does Xavier and maybe Butler (it pains me, but Xavier along with Butler are probably the crown jewels of the conference) make a move or do they stay put? That will set the dominoes in motion. If XU stays, and the Big East calls on the Flyers, I actually doubt that the Flyers would leave. Then it becomes a question of whether the Big East could poach the other higher profile teams - Butler, VCU, etc (no offense meant by an omission) - no so sure I would want to be in a diluted A-10 even with Xavier.

I would welcome the 7 Big East schools, which would create a great league, but I can't imagine that is an option. Or even a broader, national wide league with some elements of the MVC, Gonzaga, etc would be interesting although challenging logistically (there has to be TV demand for that sort of product).

How would the Flyers handle a better conference? Given all the abuse I have suffered as a Flyer fan, I have my doubts.
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Re: More BCS realignment

It all depends on what happens between the ACC and Big 12 in the coming months. If the Big 12 takes Florida State and/or Va. Tech, then the ACC takes Uconn and/or Cincy and the basketball schools dissolve the football half of the league (much to the relief of the West Coast schools aren't getting what they signed up for).
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Well, maybe that is an option.... That would be ok by me although I can't imagine the Big East hoops teams could bring themselves to "settle" for the A-10.
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From the article:
"The A-10, according to the source, has been paying attention to the Big East moves and discussed how a 21-team conference would work.

There could be two 10-team divisions or a true 20-game conference schedule, with 10 home and 10 road games, by playing everyone once."

Something does not add up there. Two 10-team divisions = 20 teams, not 21.
21 teams does get you 20 games though.
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From the article:
"The A-10, according to the source, has been paying attention to the Big East moves and discussed how a 21-team conference would work.

There could be two 10-team divisions or a true 20-game conference schedule, with 10 home and 10 road games, by playing everyone once."

Something does not add up there. Two 10-team divisions = 20 teams, not 21.
21 teams does get you 20 games though.
well you can't play yourself so that's the 21st team. you play the other 20 teams once.
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"The A-10, according to the source, has been paying attention to the Big East moves and discussed how a 21-team conference would work.

There could be two 10-team divisions or a true 20-game conference schedule, with 10 home and 10 road games, by playing everyone once."

Something does not add up there. Two 10-team divisions = 20 teams, not 21.
21 teams does get you 20 games though.
Maybe the Tribe votes one Indian off the island?
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Re: More BCS realignment

I would hope that if this comes true that Fordham makes a stronger committment to b-ball. That said, I don't want them out. I wonder what Umass would do. If they truly want to be a football school, won't they head to the Conference USA thingy that is beginning to take shape? Or would they stay with the power hoops conference? What are Umass's football plans?
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What are Umass's football plans?
Taking Uconn's spot in whatever the Big East winds up being.
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well you can't play yourself so that's the 21st team. you play the other 20 teams once.
Read my comment again. I said 21 teams gets you 20 games, but it does not get you two 10-team divisions. I don't care how you slice it or how many times they play each other, 21 teams cannot be split into 2 10-team divisions.

Moliva is on the right track.
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I am not fully convinced about the "stability" aspect of a 21-member A-10, especially with the likes of UMass salivating at the idea of an invitation to a better FB conference.

On the other hand, I have no doubt that as soon as UMass makes that move, Creighton will be first in line to fill that 21st slot (and that would be a win-win-win situation for all three entities --- Creighton, UMass, and the new A-21).

On a side note:
Our Conference has been much more professional, proactive, innovative, and formidable since Bernie McGlade became its Commissioner. As I said in an earlier post somewhere in the ether:
The BE BB7 need us more than we need them.

However, a partnership among those 21 schools would make both the A-10 and the BE BB7 stronger than either could be by themselves.
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I am not fully convinced about the "stability" aspect of a 21-member A-10, especially with the likes of UMass salivating at the idea of an invitation to a better FB conference.

On the other hand, I have no doubt that as soon as UMass makes that move, Creighton will be first in line to fill that 21st slot (and that would be a win-win-win situation for all three entities --- Creighton, UMass, and the new A-21).

On a side note:
Our Conference has been much more professional, proactive, innovative, and formidable since Bernie McGlade became its Commissioner. As I said in an earlier post somewhere in the ether:
The BE BB7 need us more than we need them.

However, a partnership among those 21 schools would make both the A-10 and the BE BB7 stronger than either could be by themselves.

Completely agree with this. The 7 BE schools are not that attractive a group on their own. Georgetown and Marquette looked good with all the old Big East schools, and St. John's has some nice tradition, but is anyone salivating at the idea of those 7 starting their own league? What kind of TV contract could they realistically get by themselves? And if they need a bunch of other teams to create a viable league financially, why would our best schools leave to join them?

We hold the cards here, and this article seems to be on the right track. Kudos to McGlade for stepping up her game recently and keeping us a step ahead of the curve.
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