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Old 12-11-2012, 12:33 PM   #541 (permalink)
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Re: More BCS realignment

we're not european soccer for one.

2nd, depaul & seton hall are not going to vote for dissolution only to be thrown into the "lower bracket" nobody is going to go there willingly.

3rd, how the heck are you going to promote the event at Barclay's if "all the good teams are across town" and knowing that everyseason that even is going to be a step behind garunteed by that arrangement.

4, what do you do about rivalries. UD & X have a pretty solid rivlary that is pretty covetted in the league's TV deal. Its a garuntee that one of the games will be on ESPN and the other game will be on CBS sports to give each portion of their TV partners access to one of the best, if not the best rivalries in the league. If they're not in the same "division" then you only get them once, which network gets the game?

5, 1 season, nor 1 tournament run does not a season make. For instance, UNC was pretty down in the dumps a few years back, Duke took a huge step back while Coach K was out w/ back issues. Both programs remained strongly committed to basketball despite a bump in the road on the court. both teams remained attractive matchups for other teams in their conference when they came to town. Shipping them off to some lesser conference until they finish in the top 2 or win their tournament again ruins all of the history they established.
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:38 PM   #542 (permalink)
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Re: More BCS realignment

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Hey, what about us?! (VCU)
Whoops, my bad. I was thinking the previous posted was referring to me putting VCU in the bottom division but I didn't even have them in.

They should be in the top division. Twelve teams each.
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:02 PM   #543 (permalink)
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Re: More BCS realignment

I'm sorry but I just see no way that a 20 team basketball-only conference can exist. The TV revenue would be so divided it wouldn't be worth it.

Maybe if you had some Mountain/West Coast teams as well (so you could have that conferences' basketball pretty much all day), it's just not going to be worth it money-wise.

Cool in the sense of basketball? Definitely. Money-wise? No.
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If and when these programs break (big east)--they must feel like they are moving forward. They're not going to feel better about the league if they find themselves playing Fordham, Duquesne and Lasalle. Sorry--its just the way I feel.
Dayton too could be left out. I understand that.

I think it makes more sense to start a new conference.

I'm not sure which programs should be included but I have a pretty good idea which ones shouldn't.
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:08 PM   #545 (permalink)
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I bet you could get each team 500-750 k. So 10-15 million paid out to the schools every year.
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Re: More BCS realignment

The problem with starting a new league is I am not sold that the top A10 teams think things will be any better in the new league. Teams will always be near the bottom of the pack, and one or two of them may be that team.

We are all thinking of these Big East teams as they were in the old big east. A lot of their success was due to their football money. without that money they could easily fall to *gasp* Duquesne *gasp* levels.

On a side note, if there was ever a situation that would cause the A10 to drop a couple teams this would be it.
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If and when these programs break (big east)--they must feel like they are moving forward. They're not going to feel better about the league if they find themselves playing Fordham, Duquesne and Lasalle. Sorry--its just the way I feel.
Dayton too could be left out. I understand that.

I think it makes more sense to start a new conference.

I'm not sure which programs should be included but I have a pretty good idea which ones shouldn't.
Absolutely right. Has St Bonaventure had success? Yes. Could Duquesne have success? Yes. If money was invested, could LaSalle and Fordham be better? Yes.

But like you said, the perception of schools like this (by the BE Catholics) are different than what people on this board perceive. They are not going to want to take a philosophical step backward into a 20 team league.

We have to remember realignment is all about (and only about) money.
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:12 PM   #548 (permalink)
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If and when these programs break (big east)--they must feel like they are moving forward. They're not going to feel better about the league if they find themselves playing Fordham, Duquesne and Lasalle. Sorry--its just the way I feel.
Dayton too could be left out. I understand that.

I think it makes more sense to start a new conference.

I'm not sure which programs should be included but I have a pretty good idea which ones shouldn't.
There is no way that the Big East onlies are going to feel better about their forthcoming conference home. There is not one scenario where they improve their position from what they have had for the last 30 years. They are heading in a downward direction. The only question is the degree of the drop.
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Re: More BCS realignment

2 things:

1 - While everyone is hopping on this 20+ team conference idea, I have to give props to one of the other Spider posters on this board, who suggested this very idea under the title 'Super Conference' or something of the like about 10 days ago when it all seemed a pipe dream. Shout out for being ahead of the curve goes to Mateer.

2 - In such a superconference, assuming that there are two divisions (east and west), I would love to see a some sort of flex-scheduled cross-division made-for-tv event in February. Similar to a Bracket Busters - halfway through the league season, designate a cross-division matchup for each team based on where they stand that particular year and set up a deal for an ESPN double or tripleheader of the top 3 games. Since it would be cross-division, the most any of these teams would play head to head anyway would be one other time. For instance, hypothetically Xavier and G'town in first in each division - they match up in the primetime game, Richmond and Marquette both second? Matchup in the 2nd best time slot. Etc. etc.

Just leave one league game unscheduled for each team on a Saturday in February, work it out with ESPN or NBC, and fire away. Helps RPI, exposure, SOS and the brand as a whole while developing more cross-division rivalries.
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Re: More BCS realignment

I will be so pissed if this 21 team league happens but I just don't see it. With Temple having a vote that takes away the nuclear option and a lot of the incentive for the catholic schools to leave. More viable options if they want to be done with football is to negotiate a leave keeping the Big East name and picking replacements or voting to stop sponsoring football (If Cincy or UConn get invites before July). Of course they can stay as well. All of those 3 I could see happening before the 21 team league but ESPN is going to start that fire if it can because it helps their network. I would be happy for the Fordham's and others who won't be homeless but for us it would suck in terms of basketball.
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If ESPN gets behind something in the sports world there is a good chance it will happen.
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This guy says there's no exit fee if the basketball (or football) schools decide to leave en masse, even with Temple having a full vote. I assume they would still have to leave their NCAA units behind, but not sure about that.
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If ESPN gets behind something in the sports world there is a good chance it will happen.
Sure has worked out that way so far but the money this time doesn't make sense for the catholic schools. Now ESPN may offer something ridiculous forcing it but at this point financially the incentive isn't quite there.
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