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Old 12-13-2012, 08:24 AM   #766 (permalink)
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Re: More BCS realignment

Some one cut the phone lines in and out of Cincy, Dayton, and Indianapolis quick!!!
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:30 AM   #767 (permalink)
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Re: More BCS realignment

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Take any and all speculation with a truck load of salt, but this guy probably knows more people on the inside than we do.

@VinParise - "Potential major blow to the A-10 is looming with word that Xavier, Dayton & Butler are the top 3 schools the Big East 7 are interested in."
The St. Bonaventure fans on this board won't like that at all.

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The BE7 will almost certainly stay together as a "building block" for something better. Logic would cause one to believe that one of the following scenarios (or some version of one of them) will result:

Preface: Adam's suggestion that Xavier will be the only invitee to form an 8-member Conference is highly unlikely at best. Such a situation would provide for only a 14-game Conference schedule. The following are far more likely:

The Big East 9: Butler and Xavier would be invited to join in order to maintain the current footprint of the 7 while adding two decent-sized media markets and fan bases.

The Big East 10: Creighton would be added to the mix to stretch the footprint farther west while adding a traditional top quality program and one of the best fan bases in the country.

The Big East 12: To create two geographical divisions, each with 6 good media markets, fan bases and facilities, the following two programs would be added to the 10: VCU or Richmond in the East and St. Louis in the West.
No mention of Dayton in a 12-school conference ? Absurd, to say the least.

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Old 12-13-2012, 08:34 AM   #768 (permalink)
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Re: More BCS realignment

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The St. Bonaventure fans on this board won't like that at all.
I wouldn't mind it as much. I'd be sad over losing Butler and Xavier, but I don't really care about Dayton. At least we could keep VCU, go after Mason and Sienna and move on.
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:37 AM   #769 (permalink)
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Re: More BCS realignment

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Interesting Big East/ACC news nuggets from ND Mike Brey and Pitt's Jamie Dixon on ESPNU CBB Podcast today. Link to come.


Hopefully the ACC targets Gtown and Nova to join as BB only members or something. That would help things a lot. I doubt it though as the ACC needs to seem like a strong football league. Also, wouldn't the BE7 try to go after Notre Dame?
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:40 AM   #770 (permalink)
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The St. Bonaventure fans on this board won't like that at all.



No mention of Dayton in a 12-school conference ? Absurd, to say the least.
I suspect X will drag them along again.
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:41 AM   #771 (permalink)
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The St. Bonaventure fans on this board won't like that at all.
Losing Xavier would be a bummer, to be sure. Butler's never played an A10 game. Losing Dayton would feel about like losing Virginia Tech or Rutgers. It's one big "meh". If it's true, congrats, I guess, but be careful what you wish for. It's been no breeze for UD to compete at the top of the A10. Things may not go well on the court.
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:45 AM   #772 (permalink)
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Re: More BCS realignment

I think the A10's days are numbered. What a bummer. UMass and Temple will get screwed in all of this.
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:48 AM   #773 (permalink)
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You guys are all funny. You all act like these AD's are reading your ideas on this fanboard and will take them into consideration when they start negotiating.... Oooh, I cen hear it now, Mateer over on the basketball Forum A-10 board thinks we should drop Fordham, because, you know, they suck.....

The speculation is fun I suppose, but don't take yourselves too seriously. There are a lot of moving parts and the musical chairs music is far away from stopping.
For the most part I agree Knobby, I don't think an AD or President is surfing through messageboards looking for ideas, and I don't take myself too seriously. (BTW, not sure I said drop Fordham, we can't do that--can we? I simply said St. Johns would get an invite even if Fordham disagreed--more making the point there is a big difference between Rhode Island and NYC).

On the other hand, I'm also aware powerful alumni do read these boards. If I had the time, research, or effort to put facts behind what I believe to be true, I'd simply write or call the people that affect decisions rather than post them here. I don't have that time. But they might be inspired from reading here, and if they see an idea from these boards from our fans, they may be spurred to action to flesh out the ideas. If they don't so what--nothing lost.

And if you think the boards really are just a closed closet with fans screaming into it that only other fans in that same closet hear, I can tell you from personal experience that's not the case. In jettisoning our former President successfully, the Spider messageboard played a surprising and fairly integral part of the process. Don't underestimate the forums or other forms of social media impacting big decisions.

On the whole, I agree for the most part the speculation is more fun than the idea any one post will affect change. Unlike you I think there is some small (1 in a 1000 or 1,000,000 or however many zeros it is) chance somebody comes up with a good idea here or on another forum, and that merits discussion by the people moving the pieces and making the decisions.
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Hopefully the ACC targets Gtown and Nova to join as BB only members or something. That would help things a lot. I doubt it though as the ACC needs to seem like a strong football league. Also, wouldn't the BE7 try to go after Notre Dame?
Florida St. and Clemson just strongarmed the ACC into taking Louisville. They would be out the door if the ACC tried to bring in the likes of Nova and Georgetown.
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Dayton is a reallignment bubble team right now, IMO. I think it could go either way for us depending on how big or small a new conference will be.
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Pete Thamel posted a story on SI.com. Relevant part:

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The new conference would likely be a 12-team basketball-based league, although the five new schools to be added to the group of Villanova, Marquette, Georgetown, St. John's, Providence, Seton Hall and DePaul are not certain right now.
A cadre of Atlantic-10 schools, including Xavier, Butler, Dayton, St. Louis and Creighton are the most likely candidates. The move could potentially attract more money for the schools than the current $1.6 million they receive from television. (The potential fate of the NCAA tournament units of the schools are a significant unresolved financial issue.)

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/new...st-basketball/
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:11 AM   #778 (permalink)
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Dayton is a reallignment bubble team right now, IMO. I think it could go either way for us depending on how big or small a new conference will be.
Now is the time your AD earns his money.

I'm not really sure what is "best" from any perspective. Some of the reports suggest that the Presidents want to sit down and take objective looks at that. I'm fairly convinced thought that whatever results is likely whatever can make the catholic schools the most money.

We'll see.
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I think the A10's days are numbered. What a bummer. UMass and Temple will get screwed in all of this.
I dont think so, I think both will end up aligned with UConn, Cincy, Memphis, etc. Thats not all bad. Dumping the crap western football would be nice though
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Now is the time your AD earns his money.
Richmond's AD is in his third day on the job. Nice to see him able to ease into it.
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