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Old 12-24-2012, 09:11 AM   #1246 (permalink)
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http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/colle...CNrVQYweK2jPQK

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One league will comprise the seven Catholic schools — DePaul, Georgetown, Marquette, Providence, St. John’s, Seton Hall and Villanova — plus five schools from the following group: Butler, Creighton, Dayton, Duquesne, George Mason, St. Louis and Xavier.

A Post source said though St. Mary’s and Gonzaga are attractive candidates, the travel costs to fly non-revenue teams cross-country will almost surely make adding them prohibitive. The source said Butler, Dayton, George Mason, St. Louis and Xavier are the top five options as the league seeks to transform into an elite, 12-team, hoops conference.
The New York Post's Lenn Robbins doesn't have a stellar record with stuff like this, but hey, it's news.
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That would be wild if George Mason gets in. Our fans would not be thrilled with that.
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GMU is not getting in. I think that is pretty safe to say.
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VCU is already in IF Mason is under serious consideration.
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villanova apparently does not want any Philly area schools invited, and I would have to believe Georgetown feels the same way about GMU.
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George Mason makes no sense at all........I am getting the feeling however that Creighton and St. Louis may be on the outs. At this point.......I'm guessing that Xavier and Butler are shoe-ins and Dayton right behind them........after that, it's gonna be a dogfight if they are going to 12. One thing to remember with football not being involved............travel expenses for other sports DO become an issue. If George Mason is anywhere in the realm of being considered, then VCU is most certainly in as well.
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villanova apparently does not want any Philly area schools invited, and I would have to believe Georgetown feels the same way about GMU.
It's just not about Villanova's disposition. The BE has historically been very careful about duplication in markets.
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Georgetown actually has very little following in northern Virginia. If the C7+ wants the DC metro market, then GMU would be a smart addition. Fairfax is, after all, the richest county in the country. And, academically GMU is superior to VCU.
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Does George Mason have a bigger following in Northern Virginia or deliver the DC metro market? A quick look at their attendance numbers would say otherwise. They certainly don't deliver the DC market more than Georgetown does.

I don't disagree that Mason is marginally better academically than VCU, but both are still large public schools with prevailing commuter school reputations.

If academics are the reason schools are being added, than it's safe to say neither VCU or Mason are in the conversation. There are several much better schools in that conversation.
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Georgetown actually has very little following in northern Virginia. If the C7+ wants the DC metro market, then GMU would be a smart addition. Fairfax is, after all, the richest county in the country. And, academically GMU is superior to VCU.
I grew up in Fairfax County (unfortunately no longer the richest) and Mason doesn't even carry the 1.1 million citizens of this county, let alone the DC area. Northern Virginia is represented by so many universities because of everyone is working in DC. Georgetown, Maryland, UVA and Tech have the most fans in the area. After that it's a hogwash. Mason won't "carry" any market, and they can't even fill their arena.
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This is going to be about whether or not the C& want to expand all they way to St. Louis and Omaha. If they do......it's game over for VCU and GMU. But again.........we're not talking BCS football revenue here for everyone to fall back on. Travel expenses definitely need to be and I believe will be taken into account.
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I honestly think it's game over for VCU from the get-go and I'm pretty sure the same is true for George Mason.

We are nowhere close institutionally to any of the other schools, George Mason is in the same boat. We have all the demographics of a school that should be pursuing FBS football and I think the presidents will take that into account, whether that assumption is warranted or not.

There are large groups at both schools that are big proponents of adding football and even if they join the Catholics for now, it won't stop that segment for pushing for football in the future. Both schools are flight-risks even if that is an imagined scenario right now. The Catholics will go for schools that offer just as much or more basketball-wise and are safer bets to remain in their conference.

However unlikely, if either Mason or VCU were to start football, FBS would be a foregone conclusion most likely. No way 30,000+ state schools don't pursue that once they start up. There are enough people that are saying it's a matter of 'when' not 'if' for me to believe that it will not be an issue going forward, even if there is no immediate plan to start-up. It will probably be decades for either Mason or VCU, but both would start if they could make it feasible. Probability dictates that over time these schools will have that opportunity, and there is enough of a push from alumni that they will take a very serious look at it and most likely take it when they get it.
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Looks like SDSU headed back to MWC.

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/...ball-big-east/
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Looks like SDSU headed back to MWC.

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/...ball-big-east/
I doubt the MWC would want two football onlies in UConn and Cinci, and it most likely wouldn't be economically feasible to get all sports in for them.


They're either stuck in the ever degrading Big East (which might also lose SMU/Houston if the MWC wants anymore) or finding a new conference (or two...).



UConn & Cinci to the A10 to replace Xavier & Butler and then football to the MAC.

What, that won't happen? Oh well.
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Marquette's AD spoke about the new conference, didn't offer too much of substance other than saying being a Catholic School isn't a dealbreaker. But most importantly, he totally dismissed the idea that UConn and Cincy would be involved in the C7.
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