hawkhill

Nor were the Irish sometimes- Dublin, Limerick,Derry etc.

But the guy who named Intercourse, Blue Ball, and Bird in Hand,Pa - that guy called it as he saw it!

A10BBall

Interesting... hence why RPI is an outdated metric and KenPom is a much better judge of a team with variables included.

Delaware and Villanova must be scrub teams

It does speak to how bad the CCSU loss was... Inexcusable...

Flyer75

I say this every year when someone brings this up....when the NCAA starts using Kenpom on selection Sunday and not the RPI, I'll actually start carrying about Kenpom.

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uz2b-len

That is a great avatar.

Mac539

Did you know that Maiden Creek went through Virginville?

A10BBall

Haha gotta love when people are admitting to being lazy intellectuals..

I guess you would be a part of the group that would have followed the Church when they said the Earth was flat even though the evidence was overwhelmingly opposite to their contention.

I guess as a person having a higher understanding of statistics and analysis, I would have more of a premium of the KenPom rankings because I understand the variables that it covers that RPI just flat out misses.

But let me put this to you under the most basic, logical situation I can and see if you can see something wrong with this statement:
[I]Would give the same value to a one-point win and a 30-point win./I]
I would think at the most basic level you would agree that shouldn't be the case. Logically, the team with the 30-point win should get more credit. RPI does NOT do this. KenPom does.

When judging a team would you rather look at thousands of possessions or 30 game results?
Basic logic would dictate the larger sample sizes would produce a truer, more accurate judgement. Games are made up of possessions and the results of possessions determine the game.

If you care to learn or have any interest to learn about it:
http://kenpom.com/blog/index.php/web...tats_explained

AdamtheFlyer

Your desire to show how intelligent you are is causing you to stubbornly and stupidly miss the point. KenPom rankings are ultimately irrelevant. Their depth and accuracy mean nothing. When the selection committee meets, they don't talk about your wins against the KenPom top 25/50/100, or your bad losses against schools ranked below 200 on KenPom. Your KenPom rank isn't displayed prominently on your team cheat sheet.

If you want to read KenPom and use that to pretend you understand basketball (you clearly don't), go ahead. If you want to talk about what does matter, use RPI.

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xu95

Since Butler's RPI on November 27th is 6, their fans might as well go ahead and buy plane tickets to the closest NCAA tournament location. They are a LOCK.

And to answer your comment Muddy, people making fun of Hanover Pretzels is funny, people posting updated RPI stats after approximately 6 games is ludicrous at best.

xu95

I'm sorry, this is Ludicris at best.

clark1a

Or the classic "Did you know you have to go through Intercourse to get to Paradise".


Elsewhere, betcha Hanover outdraws 50-75% of this made for TV Thanksgiving week exotic/no atmosphere tournament games.

Ghost of Route 340

FormerlyDawgsStudent

Teams need a gimme sometimes in the preseason. You guys play Arkansas St. And Weber St. Win or lose, those game hurt your RPI in the long run. At least by scheduling your gimmes against non D1 you don't automatically hurt your RPI. It has worked pretty well for us in the past and this will be the last time we will do it per A10 rules.

Flyer75

Nope. Has nothing to do with what formula is the better formula. In fact where did I ever say the Kenpom formula wasn't better? Where did I ever really disagree with you? Guess what....I didn't. But if you came to me and told me that a piece if gold was better then a seashell to purchase a car with....you'd be right. But if the car dealership told me they would only take seashells for payment.... well I'm bringing seashells.

I hope I don't have to explain that too you.

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AdamtheFlyer

The goal of those games is to play lesser opponents who will still win a lot of games. Opponent winning % is half of your RPI. Arky State, Weber State, and Manhattan will likely all be RPI boosts.

Playing a D3 school is a joke.

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FlyingElvis

It is interesting how those RPI rankings have most of the A10 teams that I consider contenders for the league crown near the top(Saint Louis, St. Joseph's, Temple and VCU).

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xu95

And if they are still near the top in about a month it will mean something. Since half your RPI formula is your opponents winning percentage, it makes little to no sense 6 games into the season. You could play a team that sells themselves for guarantee games in the OOC schedule and loses most of them. However, they could be favored to win their conference. They will pile up a lot of wins in their conference schedule that will make up for the out of conference schedule. 6 games into the season when they are 0-6 they weigh you down, at the end of the season when they are 18-12, they don't weigh you down as much.

Heck Stephen F. Austin is #11 in the RPI right now and until a few days ago, Belmont was #1. That should tell you something about it right there.