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Old 11-28-2012, 11:07 PM   #151 (permalink)
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No fouling in a 5 point game? Very disappointing finish.
That was strange. They didn't get the rebound off the missed free throw with about 19 secs. left and gave up like they were satisfied with losing by 5.
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It wasn't "pathetic", it's a late night west coast road game. That's difficult. Hard per se. Even challenging. Not pathetic though.
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It wasn't "pathetic", it's a late night west coast road game. That's difficult. Hard per se. Even challenging. Not pathetic though.
Nope, I'm sticking with pathetic. They're better than that "effort".
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That was strange. They didn't get the rebound off the missed free throw with about 19 secs. left and gave up like they were satisfied with losing by 5.
Strange decision. One more foul certainly seemed in order. I blame Jim Crews. For everything bad in the world.
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Re: 11/28 A-10 Games

Hard to say they gave up as much as didn't seem to know what to do in certain situations. I agree that without Kwamain's leadership this team looks like it did 2 years ago. It's a shame because they may not have a very impressive OOC but could damage a few A10 teams with him back later.
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Also looking at SLU's schedule it is amazing to me they only had 1 true OOC road game and this was it. 2 in KC and 11 home games. Not sure I have seen a schedule like that ever.
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Also looking at SLU's schedule it is amazing to me they only had 1 true OOC road game and this was it. 2 in KC and 11 home games. Not sure I have seen a schedule like that ever.
Reference Duke.
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Re: 11/28 A-10 Games

That's true but even Duke had 6 neutral court games this year. I mean 3? Especially since SLU probably can't dictate the same way a Duke can. Was it because of Rick Majerus and trying to not make him travel much when they set it? I think that may be the only reason why they would schedule it that way.
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Old 11-29-2012, 04:21 AM   #159 (permalink)
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Also looking at SLU's schedule it is amazing to me they only had 1 true OOC road game and this was it. 2 in KC and 11 home games. Not sure I have seen a schedule like that ever.
Lots of the schools in the big conferences have only 1 or sometimes even zero true road games. I put together a post listing them all for last year in referencing what an advantage these teams get for rpi purposes, because the rpi SOS does not include a home-away modifier, but I can't remember where that was.

At any rate, teams that can typically do schedule this way (see Dayton and Xavier) because they can make money off the home games against lower profile opponents. Last year Minnesota had zero true road games. Several schools had only one. The most I think a BCS team had was 4, with the median being about 2.
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We've seen these losses from Schmidt teams 1,000 times over the years. It's the big games where we need a great play call or a timely adjustment and they just never happen. Think back to the heartbreaking losses to (just off the top of my head) St. John's, Virginia Tech, NC State, Illinois, Florida State, and now Ohio--it was the same old shit. Gutsy, grind-it-out defensive effort with little-to-no offensive flow. Eric Mosley essentially brought Bona back into this game and when the crunch time hits, plays are drawn up for... Conger to take a fall away three from the wing? How about Ndoye and Simmons playing together? Hell, it took until midway through the 2nd for him to shatter his stubborn rotation to play Kloof and Mosley together. Unreal. I'm tired of reading this book. Keep your moral victories and the "Bona will be tough this year comments". This isn't 2009. I'm sick of this shit. Win the damn game.

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Strange decision. One more foul certainly seemed in order. I blame Jim Crews. For everything bad in the world.
I can't wait to see what kind of reception he gets at UD Arena.
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Old 11-29-2012, 05:55 AM   #162 (permalink)
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I was never impressed by Schmidt when he was at Xavier. I was at a couple of Xavier functions when he spoke and was asked questions, he was a little smug. He could never understand why the team is playing like crap why the fans would question some of the coaching decisions.
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Lots of the schools in the big conferences have only 1 or sometimes even zero true road games.

At any rate, teams that can typically do schedule this way (see Dayton and Xavier) because they can make money off the home games against lower profile opponents.
I'm not sure about Dayton, but Xavier typically has a strong OOC schedule under the assumption that it will prepare the team for A10 play and perhaps be looked on favorably at selection time.

This generally includes more than 1 or zero true road games against some quality opponenets.

For example, this year we are on the road against Purdue, Tennessee and Wake, and should have had a true road game at Cincinnati until they bailed and demanded neutral court. Admittedly the quality (except for UC) isn't as great as year's past, but still true road games against Big 6 opponents. We will need all the help we can get this year for sure.

Last year we had the #2 toughest OOC schedule heading into the season, behind only Long Beach State. It included true road games at #19 Vandy, Butler, and Memphis.
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That was strange. They didn't get the rebound off the missed free throw with about 19 secs. left and gave up like they were satisfied with losing by 5.
I can't remember who failed to box out, but I think it was Jett - I presume SLU would have wanted him to get the rebound and find a 3pt shooter downcourt - and Jett just got out hustled for the rebound. To be fair Jett gutted 34 minutes while nursing a groin injury that would likely have kept him out if SLU weren't so shorthanded at the position with Mitchell and Carter out.

UW burned time passing the ball around at which point it did appear SLU gave up. I don't think it would have happened like that if Majerus were still on the sideline and certainly not if Mitchell were in the game. To be fair, SLU had virtually zero chance of hitting the necessary multiple 3s in under 15 seconds to win or force overtime.

Realize that with under 2 minutes left, SLU had multiple possessions where >20 seconds elapsed between a SLU defensive rebound and a forced, missed 3 point attempt. Mitchell was SLU's go-to create a 3pt shot off the bounce out of nothing guy. Ellis, McCall, Loe, and Barnett are catch and shoot guys. Jett and Evans only shoot 3s when they're left alone.

SLU is not a tournament team without Mitchell. They will miss him next year more than most people thought. Jett and McCall are solid guards who do well in their roles, but neither can carry a team offensively down the stretch the way Mitchell can. Keith Carter needs to live up to the hype if SLU is going to thrive in a post-Mitchell reality.
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It wasn't "pathetic", it's a late night west coast road game. That's difficult. Hard per se. Even challenging. Not pathetic though.
UAlbany didn't have an issue with it, when they won at UW.

You still have to foul.

Subtract Majerus, Mitchell and as it showed tonight, Conklin and SLU is a very different team than last.
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