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Old 12-08-2012, 06:27 PM   #76 (permalink)
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Some of it was our fault but let's just say if you sneezed you got a foul.
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If Dayton and Butler can hold on we would have a 6-4 day and meet the betting odds expectation.
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Dayton should be able to hold on without issue. This crude simulacrum of a press is just free buckets. If we could shoot free throws, it would be a total stampede. Butler looks to be pulling away as well, paving the way for yet another tournamentless season for poor Northwestern.
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83-61 Dayton over Miami Ohio
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Dayton rolls....Mr Double Double Devin Oliver comes through again. Benson also adds double double. All 5 starters in double figures....Pierre adds 12 and 7.

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Division II school of the day is: Panhandle State! Who gave a strong undefeated Wyoming team a bit of a tussle before returning to some sort of panhandle. Florida? Oklahoma? Who knows? Who cares?
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Division II school of the day is: Panhandle State! Who gave a strong undefeated Wyoming team a bit of a tussle before returning to some sort of panhandle. Florida? Oklahoma? Who knows? Who cares?
Nickname: the Fighting Panhandlers?
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Butler gets the win of the night on the road vs Northwestern. 6-4 day today.
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... First, because Dayton plays so many teams in common, they will have a greater effect on your rpi (because they also factor into the opponents-opponents record component of every conference opponent). ...
I wish people would stop saying this. It is only true at the beginning of the year when the RPI is meaningless anyway. The closer to Selection Sunday you get the closer everyone's opponents opponents component of the RPI approaches 0.500. On Selection Sunday the only meaningful impact the opponents opponents component has is to slightly compress the distribution of raw RPI numbers around 0.500 (for weaker teams it raises their raw RPI score towards 0.500 and for stronger teams it lowers their raw RPI score toward 0.500). The simple fact is that since RPI is only actually meaningful in an substantive way on Selection Sunday the opponents opponents component of the RPI is never significantly meaningful. .
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Ramon Galloway led the Explorers attack in the first half with 19 points (he finished with 24) against Northeastern.

Tyreek Duren scored all 12 of his points in the second half including the shot-clock beater that won the game for La Salle with 1.4 seconds remaining.

Jerrell Wright had 13 points and 3 steals.

Northeastern certainly has guys that score the ball. And La Salle didn't bring their "A" game on defense. They definitely have some work to do in preparing for Bucknell next Saturday.
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Nickname: the Fighting Panhandlers?
The FIGHTING Oklahoma Panhandle State Aggies.

And no joke, they have a pretty serious rodeo team.

http://www.opsu.edu/Athletics/Rodeo/
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I wish people would stop saying this. It is only true at the beginning of the year when the RPI is meaningless anyway. The closer to Selection Sunday you get the closer everyone's opponents opponents component of the RPI approaches 0.500. On Selection Sunday the only meaningful impact the opponents opponents component has is to slightly compress the distribution of raw RPI numbers around 0.500 (for weaker teams it raises their raw RPI score towards 0.500 and for stronger teams it lowers their raw RPI score toward 0.500). The simple fact is that since RPI is only actually meaningful in an substantive way on Selection Sunday the opponents opponents component of the RPI is never significantly meaningful. .
Which is why it is actually beneficial to a conference for teams to build up lots of wins against crappy opponents. Everyone criticizes lots of the BCS conferences for doing this, but its mathematically beneficial. If everyone builds up a ton of wins, the good conference opponent records will offset the RPI hit from the weak out of conference foes.
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Congrats to all, including Dayton. It was a can't lose game that would have been nice to watch. The Miami fans say their football took a dip when they started to spend on hockey. Never the less it doesn't matter who root for as long as you have fun. We have Dayton at home this year and they spanked us pretty hard the last to times we played. Hoping for some pay back. Our team needs to get its collective ass in gear.
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I wish people would stop saying this. It is only true at the beginning of the year when the RPI is meaningless anyway. The closer to Selection Sunday you get the closer everyone's opponents opponents component of the RPI approaches 0.500. On Selection Sunday the only meaningful impact the opponents opponents component has is to slightly compress the distribution of raw RPI numbers around 0.500 (for weaker teams it raises their raw RPI score towards 0.500 and for stronger teams it lowers their raw RPI score toward 0.500). The simple fact is that since RPI is only actually meaningful in an substantive way on Selection Sunday the opponents opponents component of the RPI is never significantly meaningful. .
Take a look at the chart on "future weights" on this page: http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Massachusetts.html
If the effect is negligible, shouldn't the future weight calculated be more similar between conference and non-conference opponents? The cumulative effect seems pretty dramatic to me. What am I missing?

It's also not clear to me how everyone's opponents-opponents records would approach 0.500 when different conferences tend to have dramatically different success OOC. I would think that would exacerbate the differences between conferences rather than homogenize them.
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Is New Orleans Division I? I thought they down-graded their progam.
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