The potentially premature goodbye thread

[bprichard]

Originally Posted by X-band '01

Even if Dayton doesn't immediately get a basketball BE invite, they should eventually get one if they can improve in the next few years over the A-10. Duquesne would have been a mortal lock by now had they been a regular NCAA contender as well.

If the new league starts with 9 schools, it doesn't mean it will stay at 9. But there's a LOT of red tape to clean up first just to start the league.

This is something I've thought about and agree with, but given our recent inability to get over the hump, I'd much prefer to get in now. I'm not at all worried about Dayton being a solid team in the hypothetical new conference, but I am worried about our ability to differentiate ourselves afterwards, especially given Marquette's clear distaste for us.

In the end, I'd prefer the A10 as it is, but it's getting pretty clear that the status quo can't be maintained.

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[Dunga]

Originally Posted by bprichard

This is something I've thought about and agree with, but given our recent inability to get over the hump, I'd much prefer to get in now. I'm not at all worried about Dayton being a solid team in the hypothetical new conference, but I am worried about our ability to differentiate ourselves afterwards, especially given Marquette's clear distaste for us.

In the end, I'd prefer the A10 as it is, but it's getting pretty clear that the status quo can't be maintained.

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Call your AD. If you're a donor you'll get a hearing.

[Dunga]

Originally Posted by Muskeagle

I don't want to go. This whole thing bums me out a bit. I'm sure in some ways, it is "better" for X, but I honestly have never cared for Big East basketball and I've always loved the A10.

Call your AD.

[Dunga]

Originally Posted by bprichard

I have so many conflicting feelings about this. I love the A10 too, but I don't want to get left behind if X and SLU go. And the idea of rekindling rivalries with Marquette (who avoids UD like the plague) and DePaul (despite their recent foul odor) is appealing.

Call your AD.

[paulxu]

I have no idea who the heck is going anywhere.
If Xavier and Butler do go to the breakaway BE 7 group, and if Dayton and VCU are intitially not going, the VCU guys better get ready for some broader bandwith in their threads.

[Bill Russell]

Originally Posted by bprichard

The ceiling on Providence and Seton Hall is lower, but they're better than the bottom of the A10.

Again, let that play out over the next decade or so. We'll see how PC, SHU, and DePaul fare when the heavyweights aren't coming to town anymore. Those large rental fees for downtown arenas will start to sting quite a bit. Remember, these schools' on-campus facilities would be the worst in the Atlantic 10--Fordham included. No more football-infused cash, no more Syracuse or UConn or Louisville coming to town, and no more casual fan attendance. I'm not so sure some of these schools won't struggle mightily (not that they already aren't).

[MANGHAM]

Originally Posted by mainejeff

If the Big East 7 go to 10:

Xavier
Butler
St. Louis

If the Big East 7 goes to 12:

Xavier
Butler
St. Louis
Dayton
Richmond

One of the first teams in will be Creighton. I think Richmond is the odd team out.

[EC Basketball]

Wow, can't believe all the changes among the eastern conferences. The A10 was such a good conference. Now, who knows whats going to happen.

[MudFlap]

Originally Posted by paulxu

I have no idea who the heck is going anywhere.
If Xavier and Butler do go to the breakaway BE 7 group, and if Dayton and VCU are intitially not going, the VCU guys better get ready for some broader bandwith in their threads.

I'd like to see VCU come along, but you're right, Muddy would vent his years of frustration out on anybody left that's had any success.

[WVBilliken]

I am grateful to the A10 accepting SLU into their league, a very good league far superior to the MVC for SLU. But I am praying SLU gets an invite to the new Big East or whatever the name becomes.

SLU has history with Marquette and DePaul. With Xavier, Butler, perhaps Dayton, etc. you now have a very nice West Division for the new Big East. I am assuming a 12 team league. Much better for SLU's schedule and travel. The A10 is a very tough travel league for a team like SLU. 16 game conference schedule with two games each in your Division and 1 against the East Division.

And the TV money and exposure ought to be pretty good considering the cities and well known names of most of the teams.

PLEASE, let it happen!

[roux2dope]

Originally Posted by bprichard

This is something I've thought about and agree with, but given our recent inability to get over the hump, I'd much prefer to get in now. I'm not at all worried about Dayton being a solid team in the hypothetical new conference, but I am worried about our ability to differentiate ourselves afterwards, especially given Marquette's clear distaste for us.

In the end, I'd prefer the A10 as it is, but it's getting pretty clear that the status quo can't be maintained.

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I did not know Marquette had issues with Dayton

[El Shaqtus]

Originally Posted by roux2dope

I did not know Marquette had issues with Dayton

It's Dayton Paranoia. Which is slightly different than Billiken Paranoia or any other kind.

[bprichard]

Originally Posted by roux2dope

I did not know Marquette had issues with Dayton

I should probably stop looking at UD Pride. Their paranoiac frenzy has probably started seeping into my brain. But I can't quit because there are so many clearly unstable people posting there who have created tremendous fantasy worlds. I think Marquette promised us a game at UD Arena a long time ago that they refuse to fulfill. On the other hand, I might have just conjured that in a fever dream.

[cintibUD]

Originally Posted by bprichard

I should probably stop looking at UD Pride. Their paranoiac frenzy has probably started seeping into my brain. But I can't quit because there are so many clearly unstable people posting there who have created tremendous fantasy worlds. I think Marquette promised us a game at UD Arena a long time ago that they refuse to fulfill. On the other hand, I might have just conjured that in a fever dream.

Actually, UD owed Marquette a vist up there and UM said "forget it". That is a little out of the ordinary, IMO

[TheCobra]

I think Marquette avoided us for a period, I think in the '90s. But, we have played quite a few times in a 2000s - lots of great games. Brian Wardle, or whatever that dude's name was, was great for them. We had a Yuanta Holland buzzer beater, the Dwyane Wade overtime game at UD arena, and the Chris Wright-Maurice Acker game. They had at least one game winning shot or late shot by Wardle to beat us. And DWade's first year they trounced us in Milwaukee.