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Old 12-16-2012, 01:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Which BE7 teams Should A10 Add?

Which BE7 teams (Providence, St. John’s, Marquette, DePaul, Seton Hall, Villanova and Georgetown) would you add if you were commish of the A10?

I would add 2 or 3 depending on UMass. If UMass agrees to stay for at least 5 years then just 2 teams.

I would probably add St. John's (NYC market) and DePaul (Chicago market). If a third team was added then probably Seton Hall (North Jersey market).

Villanova = no. They thought they were superior then the rest of the Philly Big 5. They built their own on-campus court and nearly destroyed the Big 5 (they stopped the round-ribon style for a period during the Rollie days - and they made the other teams play on their home court - it bothers me that we allowed that - but other teams home games had to be played at the Palestra. We will not forget).

Georgetown = no. I was never a fan of John Thompson Sr. and how he lowered academic standards to new levels to get the players he wanted.

Marquette = Milwaukee... more snow to deal with!

Providence = only if we expanded to 21 or 22.
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Old 12-16-2012, 02:07 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Which BE7 teams Should A10 Add?

Can't believe I'm jumping into this. But, if I were the Commish, and had the opportunity to add, the three that bring the most value, in my opinion, are Georgetown, Marquette, and the Johnnies.
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Re: Which BE7 teams Should A10 Add?

A couple of posters here might heckle you for this one, but this is not a crazy question. I am surprised that none of the X, Dayton, or SLU posters will even consider the idea of G'town going to the ACC. Would I put money on it? No, but it is not out of the realm of possibility. Would G'town go to the ACC if asked? How long does it take to say yes? G'town loses money every home game it plays at the Verizon Ctr. This new Catholic League is not going to help that. They need to get into a situation where they can try to fill the place up, so money will trump loyalty. G'town will walk away from Providence and Seton Hall in a heart-beat. Playing Duke, UNC, Wake Forest, Virginia sounds like a step up.

Why would the ACC take them? G'town is a prestigious school in a big market, it has a great basketball tradition, and the loss of Maryland opens up the door to the market. There is also precedent with a non-football school with ND. So, plan away for this new BE12 league, just make sure to do it without the blinders on. Georgetown in the ACC does have a ring to it. And yes, if G'town is out, then the balance of power between the A10 and the BE6 changes quickly. Just Google G'town ACC and you will see the reports. And St. John's has been brought up as well. A lot of Syracuse fans can fill up MSG.
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Re: Which BE7 teams Should A10 Add?

So you would add Seton Hall, who is about as relevant as LaSalle, but not Nova, Marquette, or Georgetown? Good thing you're not the commish.
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A couple of posters here might heckle you for this one, but this is not a crazy question. I am surprised that none of the X, Dayton, or SLU posters will even consider the idea of G'town going to the ACC. Would I put money on it? No, but it is not out of the realm of possibility. Would G'town go to the ACC if asked? How long does it take to say yes?

So, plan away for this new BE12 league, just make sure to do it without the blinders on. Georgetown in the ACC does have a ring to it. And yes, if G'town is out, then the balance of power between the A10 and the BE6 changes quickly. Just Google G'town ACC and you will see the reports. And St. John's has been brought up as well. A lot of Syracuse fans can fill up MSG.
Agree 100%. I don't think X needs to jump immediately, particuarly if it appears that there is even a chance Georgetown gets an ACC offer. I think best-case scenario (which won't happen) would be for A-10 to dump Fordham, LaSalle, Rhode Island and St Bona and add Marquette, Nova, Georgetown and St Johns (hell, add all 7 if those 4 won't come without the other 3). If Georgetown bolts within the next few years, A-10 would be able to absorb the hit.

Now that'd be a league. Georgetown, Marquette, Villanova, St Johns, Xavier, Butler, VCU, Dayton, UMass, Richmond, Duquense, St Louis
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Agree 100%. I don't think X needs to jump immediately, particuarly if it appears that there is even a chance Georgetown gets an ACC offer. I think best-case scenario (which won't happen) would be for A-10 to dump Fordham, LaSalle, Rhode Island and St Bona and add Marquette, Nova, Georgetown and St Johns (hell, add all 7 if those 4 won't come without the other 3). If Georgetown bolts within the next few years, A-10 would be able to absorb the hit.

Now that'd be a league. Georgetown, Marquette, Villanova, St Johns, Xavier, Butler, VCU, Dayton, UMass, Richmond, Duquense, St Louis
This would be a very good conference, but the BE7 has announced they are leaving, and I am pretty sure they wouldn't be doing that if there was a chance some would get left behind.
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In all seriousness, after the defections, Siena and Davidson would seem to fit nicely
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Agree 100%. I don't think X needs to jump immediately, particuarly if it appears that there is even a chance Georgetown gets an ACC offer. I think best-case scenario (which won't happen) would be for A-10 to dump Fordham, LaSalle, Rhode Island and St Bona and add Marquette, Nova, Georgetown and St Johns (hell, add all 7 if those 4 won't come without the other 3). If Georgetown bolts within the next few years, A-10 would be able to absorb the hit.

Now that'd be a league. Georgetown, Marquette, Villanova, St Johns, Xavier, Butler, VCU, Dayton, UMass, Richmond, Duquense, St Louis
I'll let the supporters of the other schools you'd like to cast aside ask you about their particular schools. But, now that Bona is back to competitiveness after the down years caused by the scandal, why are you including Bona with your castoffs?
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I'll let the supporters of the other schools you'd like to cast aside ask you about their particular schools. But, now that Bona is back to competitiveness after the down years caused by the scandal, why are you including Bona with your castoffs?
Uh, well, I'd much rather have conference-mates such as Georgetown, Marquette, Villanova and St Johns than Fordham, St Bona, LaSalle and Rhode Island.

If St Bona shouldn't be kicked out, who should? Duquense? No thanks.. I'll take the Pittsburgh market over the Olean market any day.
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Re: Which BE7 teams Should A10 Add?

[QUOTE=Deleo77;7008586]A couple of posters here might heckle you for this one, but this is not a crazy question. I am surprised that none of the X, Dayton, or SLU posters, there might votes will even consider the idea of G'town going to the ACC. Would I put money on it? No, but it is not out of the realm of possibility.

I tend agree that this is not out of the realm of possibility and I think they would be joined by Villanova, The ACC was, is an always will be a BB oriented conference. They want representative football because thats where the tv money comes from. i'm sure the conference leadership would have a hard time getting Clemson, FSU and Va Tech to go along with bringing in the Hoyas and Nova, but if the rest of the schools think the three aforementioned schools are going to get poached by another conference,there might be enough votes to be proactive and bring in both the Hoyas and Nova, Georgetown/Syracuse is a huge rivalry and Nova/Hoyas is not far behind.At that point, they also bring in UCONN and they pretty much have to east coast tied up. The football wont scare the SEC, but it'll we be good enough to get a good tv contract, and the bb, both mens' and womens' won't take a back seat to anybody.

2015 is a long way off and alot could happen including a couple of the BE 7 opting for the ACC. Regardless, of the number of A-10 schools and their identities that may contemplate leaving, they better be darn sure who their mates will be.
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I, for one, don't give a damn about markets. TV money for basketball sucks anyway. Give me the best, strongest conference possible.
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Uh, well, I'd much rather have conference-mates such as Georgetown, Marquette, Villanova and St Johns than Fordham, St Bona, LaSalle and Rhode Island.

If St Bona shouldn't be kicked out, who should? Duquense? No thanks.. I'll take the Pittsburgh market over the Olean market any day.
Well, I didn't try to compare who ought to be kicked out, so I said nothing about Duquesne or the others. And, the Pittsburgh market is a fine market. From your response, I can only surmise that it is the "market" that is your reason for wishing that the Bonnies be exiled. Olean sits in the Buffalo TV market, which sits in the Western NY, which also includes Rochester. If you want to poke holes in that, go ahead, but please don't consider Bonas' market to be limited to Olean.
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Re: Which BE7 teams Should A10 Add?

For the A-10 to add any BE7 teams, the ACC would have to take G-Town, Nova and St. John's at the minimum. Even then, I think the new league could form.
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