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Old 12-17-2012, 04:53 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Duquesne has not been a door mat since 2005 by the way... the last 6 years have been pretty successful.
In 2005-06, Duquesne was 3-24. In 2006-07, 10-19. In three of the years since, Duquesne has been 7-9 in the conference. They also mixed in two decent seasons. That's not Fordham, but it's still trending towards the doormat end of things.
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Re: X, UD, StL, Butler - Explain the "allure" of the BE7
Actually it is trending away from the doormat end of things.

The Dukes made it to the A10 tourney championship, the NIT (OT game vs VT), two CBI appearances with one win(Montana).

They also were in the others recieving votes in the AP and coaches poll during that time.

They have been a middle of the pack A10 team for 6 years and this year will likely be the same.

Next year is looking to be better than this year based on personnel.

With how many teams are between 7-9 and 9-7 every year that is pretty much solid middle of the pack.
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I'm still livid about the technical foul on Cyrus for hanging on the rim when Prince was underneath him. It's not like those free throws mattered in a game that was tied at the end of regulation.
No referee that deserves to work the NCAA tournament makes that call. Unless you are obviously showboating, fighting, or calling timeout when you have none, the technical foul whistle should be in the pocket. Simple as that. In every sport fringe calls are kept out of the game in playoff and championship scenarios so that you don't decide a game with a questionable whistle. Regardless, if Bremer knocks down the 3 from the corner on the 2nd to last possession in regulation, or Winn's lay-up hits anything but the dead center of the back of the rim, the outcome was different. Enough living in the past though - if I want old news I'll wait for a particular Dayton fan to reference 2003. Again.
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Please explain to me how Xavier is on the downturn and LaSalle is on the upturn.
Zip It! No explanation needed. La Salle pounded X at Gola last season and will do so again this season at Cintas.
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Let me just clear things up...LaSalle sucks.

Please see below.
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Kyle Anderson, Gary Harris, Adrian Payne, etc...A-10? Hard to sell.

Big East - easier sell.

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Zip It! No explanation needed. La Salle pounded X at Gola last season and will do so again this season at Cintas.
Laughable. I'll bet you some Skyline Chili for some Philly cheese steaks on that game at Cintas.
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Re: X, UD, StL, Butler - Explain the "allure" of the BE7
UD's historic rivals:
Xavier
Miami U.
DePaul
Marquette
Saint Louis
Cincinnati
Notre Dame

Naturally, being in a league with X, Marquette and DePaul is a good fit for UD. Obviously, Miami is not the program they once were. Saint Louis is with us now, and I'd love to see it that way in the future (although that certainly seems dicey at the moment). Cincinnati is pursuing their sad football dream. Notre Dame certainly thinks they're too good for us.

Those schools plus the quality of Georgetown and Villanova and potential of St. John's sounds really good, regardless of what you think of Providence and Seton Hall, neither of which is a terrible program, just a bit mediocre.

Also, Steve81 made a good point about money.
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Re: X, UD, StL, Butler - Explain the "allure" of the BE7
I believe the Duquesne-Dayton rivalry has been alright recently.

Dayton leads the series 44-22 I think.
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UD's historic rivals:
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Louisville is one of Dayton's longest standing rivals, well above Notre Dame, St. Louis, and Marquette.

At least Louisville has actually scheduled us compared to some of those teams. Well, until we beat them about 3-4 times in a row at Freedom Hall and US Aviary Arena.
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I believe the Duquesne-Dayton rivalry has been alright recently.

Dayton leads the series 44-22 I think.
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Louisville is one of Dayton's longest standing rivals, well above Notre Dame, St. Louis, and Marquette.

At least Louisville has actually scheduled us compared to some of those teams. Well, until we beat them about 3-4 times in a row at Freedom Hall and US Aviary Arena.
Definitely two I missed. And while we have played Duquesne a lot, I don't think our fans are that passionate about the rivalry. What do Duquesne think of playing Dayton?

We did used to play Louisville a lot, but, yeah, that one is in the Cincinnati stage of not coming back. They won't be visiting UD Arena in the foreseeable future.
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Re: X, UD, StL, Butler - Explain the "allure" of the BE7
Personally, I view Dayton as one of our top 3 A10 rivals. Perhaps just after St. Bonventure actually.

I think the fact the game has been at Consol also shows that the administration thinks it is a rivalry.

I like the games a lot because you guys always bring a good crowd with you to Pittsburgh. In my earlier days I would thoroughly enjoy yelling obscenities toward your fans from the student section every time Dayton scored.

Also, our fan base and students seem to recognize the Dayton name more than a lot of other A10 schools. Overall I think it is a second tier rival for the Dukes.

1st tier: Pitt, Robert Morris, St. Bonaventure
2nd tier: Dayton, Xavier, West Virginia (there would be a lot of discussion about the second tier)

I think Steve from yuku did a pretty impressive analysis of Duquesne's top rivals I will try to find the post.
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I STRONGLY disagree. Xavier is on the downturn. I have no problem with Xavier, Butler and SLU leaving but don't put any of our teams down. Yes Fordham and Duquesne have been doormats of the league but Providence and Seton Hall have been doormats in the BE. Villanova, like La Salle has won both NCAA and NIT titles. Villanova is on the downturn like Xavier. La Salle and SBU are on the upturn.
Are you retired? Please tell me you're not in any form of leadership position where you actually have the capacity to impact human life.

At least you're entertaining.

Would you swap LaSalle's place for Xavier's place right now?

Is LaSalle in such an upturn that it will build to 10k in average home attendance in a sparkling new on campus arena, while making tournament appearance after tournament appearance.
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