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owlfan2272 · 12-18-2012, 08:37 PM

From a Temple perspective right now it's hard to say anyone really deserves all league but I believe we will have 2 at least (Khalif and Scootie) even though I think they both can perform much better than they have so far. Decosey is going to be one of the top freshman in the league but not even close to Semaj. Rahlir is a pretty solid player and may sneak in with a 3rd team/2nd team and should get a defensive award as well.

butlerway · 12-18-2012, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Flyer75

So Pomeroy is 150 spots off from everyone else? I'll stick with RPI.

And just for the record, I'm not knocking Ken Pom, but I'll put more stock in his formula when they start talking about it on Selection Sunday.

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They are never going to talk about it on selection Sunday because it is a score based model. Those are more accurate for truly assessing teams and making predictions, but they aren't "politically correct." Even though RPI is PC, it's still a horrible, horrible ranking system. Any system not based on scores where teams frequently lose and move up or win and move down is a poor model. I wish Sagarin still had his ELO model that was purely based on wins and losses.

And not this comes with no bias. I'm a Butler fan, and RPI loves Butler right now. It's still full of crap.

DarkFlyer · 12-19-2012, 10:03 AM

I think Dillard is a lock to be an all-conference player, but after that I don't see anyone else being honored.

Devin Oliver isn't a player who stands out because of his skills, but rather because of the intangibles. In a 15 team conference, his contributions will likely get overlooked - even if he averages 10 and 8. I guess how muc he is "noticed" is dependant on where Dayton finishes in the standings.

ExplorerSteve · 12-19-2012, 03:56 PM

Tyreek Duren is definite A10 First team member... does whatever the team needs.

Ramon Galloway has played well but has been inconsistent at times.

DukesDan · 12-19-2012, 08:49 PM

Updating Colter to a potential all league player.

He has been averaging 17.5 points and 6 assists per game the past 4 games. He is the MVP of this team.

DistrictBaller · 12-19-2012, 09:12 PM

I don't know if VCU gets many players on the all-conference teams since we're pretty balanced.

I think Treveon Graham probably makes one of the all-conference teams (14.5, 5.5 rpg in 25.8 mpg). Juvonte Reddic really looked like one of the best big men in the league early but has had some underwhelming performances of late so I don't know if he'd make a team right now (13.7 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 1.5 spg).

Briante Weber will be a lock for all-defense team. He leads the country in steals per 40 minutes (5.83) and leads the Rams with 3.3 per game. Jon Rothstein and Jay Bilas have both called him the best on-the-ball defender in the country.

duq81 · 12-20-2012, 07:15 AM

Right now, Ferry and Major would be out in front for coach of the year, although Stevens is gaining steam. Colter for the all rookie team.

Bill Russell · 12-20-2012, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by duq81

Right now, Ferry and Major would be out in front for coach of the year, although Stevens is gaining steam. Colter for the all rookie team.

Can we pump the breaks a tad? Ferry for Coach of the Year? Easy, sailor!

bdance · 12-20-2012, 08:04 AM

Chaz Williams has certainly freed up a spot for someone else, based on his play so far. He's not even 3rd team material at the moment.

antboy · 12-20-2012, 08:07 AM

I'd hold off on Major too (even as a Niners fan). The team is improved, but has not played a tough schedule at all. He could win it if the Niners finish near the top of the A10, but the Miami blowout should make it clear that is unlikely. Ferry has helped the Dukes exceed expectations so far, but I still think they are likely to finish in the bottom third of the conference and that doesn't win coach of the year.

Stevens should be the frontrunner, with Mack and Smart somewhere behind. Results and competition matter.

DukesDan · 12-20-2012, 08:26 AM

Of course it is too early to crown a COY, since an A10 game has yet to be played (unless you count X-Butler).

However, Jim Ferry is the real deal and will terrorize the league (whats left of it) in years to come. I hope the A10 has some other good rebounding teams, otherwise it will be a blood bath on the boards.

I'm not surprised Chaz has underperformed. He is an out of control mess at times. Colter will likely outperform him this year. Colter is putting up better scoring and assist numbers than TJ McConnell.

bprichard · 12-20-2012, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DukesDan

Of course it is too early to crown a COY, since an A10 game has yet to be played (unless you count X-Butler).

However, Jim Ferry is the real deal and will terrorize the league (whats left of it) in years to come. I hope the A10 has some other good rebounding teams, otherwise it will be a blood bath on the boards.

I'm not surprised Chaz has underperformed. He is an out of control mess at times. Colter will likely outperform him this year. Colter is putting up better scoring and assist numbers than TJ McConnell.

I like what I'm seeing from Ferry a lot. Same deal for Hurley at URI, who obviously is not getting a ton of wins, but is getting his not very talented team to play tough.

powerbait · 12-20-2012, 08:55 AM

Won't win it, because of Xavier's superstar, but Clayton will be in the discussion for ROTY and well be all freshman team. He's 33 in the nation in fg% and top 10 in offensive rebounding.

PH will be all defense again.

Braswell will probably end up 2nd team all conference, especially if we finish strong.

I would say Braswell or Henry is our team MVP, Clayton is definitely our newcomer of the year.

We better enjoy it, cause who knows what next year will look like.

Bill Russell · 12-20-2012, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DukesDan

Of course it is too early to crown a COY, since an A10 game has yet to be played (unless you count X-Butler).

However, Jim Ferry is the real deal and will terrorize the league (whats left of it) in years to come. I hope the A10 has some other good rebounding teams, otherwise it will be a blood bath on the boards.

I'm not surprised Chaz has underperformed. He is an out of control mess at times. Colter will likely outperform him this year. Colter is putting up better scoring and assist numbers than TJ McConnell.

Holy cow. What will happen if the Dukes ever start, like, 10-2?

DukesDan · 12-20-2012, 09:07 AM

Just wait Mr. Russell

12-18-2012, 08:37 PM	#46 (permalink)
owlfan2272 Star Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,537 Rep Power: 12822	Re: Your Team's Awards so far.... From a Temple perspective right now it's hard to say anyone really deserves all league but I believe we will have 2 at least (Khalif and Scootie) even though I think they both can perform much better than they have so far. Decosey is going to be one of the top freshman in the league but not even close to Semaj. Rahlir is a pretty solid player and may sneak in with a 3rd team/2nd team and should get a defensive award as well. __________________ Temple Owls have won a lot.

12-19-2012, 10:03 AM	#48 (permalink)
DarkFlyer Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 649 Rep Power: 16757	Re: Your Team's Awards so far.... I think Dillard is a lock to be an all-conference player, but after that I don't see anyone else being honored. Devin Oliver isn't a player who stands out because of his skills, but rather because of the intangibles. In a 15 team conference, his contributions will likely get overlooked - even if he averages 10 and 8. I guess how muc he is "noticed" is dependant on where Dayton finishes in the standings. __________________ In Dillard we trust.

12-19-2012, 03:56 PM	#49 (permalink)
ExplorerSteve Veteran Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,712 Rep Power: 157491	Re: Your Team's Awards so far.... Tyreek Duren is definite A10 First team member... does whatever the team needs. Ramon Galloway has played well but has been inconsistent at times. __________________ www.LaSalle-Explorers.com Unofficial Source for FREE LaSalle Explorers Information along with "Explorers Universe" Messageboard.

12-19-2012, 08:49 PM	#50 (permalink)
DukesDan Veteran Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,135 Rep Power: 15970	Re: Your Team's Awards so far.... Updating Colter to a potential all league player. He has been averaging 17.5 points and 6 assists per game the past 4 games. He is the MVP of this team. __________________ Duquesne Dukes: 2012 A10 tournament qualifier!! 2012-2013 Locks of the Day TBA 2011-2012 Locks of the Day NIT participant 29-26-0...... .527 2010-2011 Locks of the Day Regular Season Champion 31-20-4 ..... .600 #15 Cooper #11 Green #10 Nixon #12 Ricketts #24 Somerset

12-19-2012, 09:12 PM	#51 (permalink)
DistrictBaller Veteran Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 1,126 Rep Power: 47196	Re: Your Team's Awards so far.... I don't know if VCU gets many players on the all-conference teams since we're pretty balanced. I think Treveon Graham probably makes one of the all-conference teams (14.5, 5.5 rpg in 25.8 mpg). Juvonte Reddic really looked like one of the best big men in the league early but has had some underwhelming performances of late so I don't know if he'd make a team right now (13.7 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 1.5 spg). Briante Weber will be a lock for all-defense team. He leads the country in steals per 40 minutes (5.83) and leads the Rams with 3.3 per game. Jon Rothstein and Jay Bilas have both called him the best on-the-ball defender in the country. __________________ "We will wreak havoc on our opponent's psyche and plan of attack." - VCU Head Coach Shaka Smart

12-20-2012, 07:15 AM	#52 (permalink)
duq81 Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 924 Rep Power: 3002	Re: Your Team's Awards so far.... Right now, Ferry and Major would be out in front for coach of the year, although Stevens is gaining steam. Colter for the all rookie team.

12-20-2012, 08:04 AM	#54 (permalink)
bdance Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Eastern Massachusetts Age: 53 Posts: 1,361 Rep Power: 774972	Re: Your Team's Awards so far.... Chaz Williams has certainly freed up a spot for someone else, based on his play so far. He's not even 3rd team material at the moment.

12-20-2012, 08:07 AM	#55 (permalink)
antboy Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,477 Rep Power: 2220	Re: Your Team's Awards so far.... I'd hold off on Major too (even as a Niners fan). The team is improved, but has not played a tough schedule at all. He could win it if the Niners finish near the top of the A10, but the Miami blowout should make it clear that is unlikely. Ferry has helped the Dukes exceed expectations so far, but I still think they are likely to finish in the bottom third of the conference and that doesn't win coach of the year. Stevens should be the frontrunner, with Mack and Smart somewhere behind. Results and competition matter.

12-20-2012, 08:26 AM	#56 (permalink)
DukesDan Veteran Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,135 Rep Power: 15970	Re: Your Team's Awards so far.... Of course it is too early to crown a COY, since an A10 game has yet to be played (unless you count X-Butler). However, Jim Ferry is the real deal and will terrorize the league (whats left of it) in years to come. I hope the A10 has some other good rebounding teams, otherwise it will be a blood bath on the boards. I'm not surprised Chaz has underperformed. He is an out of control mess at times. Colter will likely outperform him this year. Colter is putting up better scoring and assist numbers than TJ McConnell. __________________ Duquesne Dukes: 2012 A10 tournament qualifier!! 2012-2013 Locks of the Day TBA 2011-2012 Locks of the Day NIT participant 29-26-0...... .527 2010-2011 Locks of the Day Regular Season Champion 31-20-4 ..... .600 #15 Cooper #11 Green #10 Nixon #12 Ricketts #24 Somerset

12-20-2012, 08:55 AM	#58 (permalink)
powerbait Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 211 Rep Power: 6	Re: Your Team's Awards so far.... Won't win it, because of Xavier's superstar, but Clayton will be in the discussion for ROTY and well be all freshman team. He's 33 in the nation in fg% and top 10 in offensive rebounding. PH will be all defense again. Braswell will probably end up 2nd team all conference, especially if we finish strong. I would say Braswell or Henry is our team MVP, Clayton is definitely our newcomer of the year. We better enjoy it, cause who knows what next year will look like.

12-20-2012, 09:07 AM	#60 (permalink)
DukesDan Veteran Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,135 Rep Power: 15970	Re: Your Team's Awards so far.... Just wait Mr. Russell __________________ Duquesne Dukes: 2012 A10 tournament qualifier!! 2012-2013 Locks of the Day TBA 2011-2012 Locks of the Day NIT participant 29-26-0...... .527 2010-2011 Locks of the Day Regular Season Champion 31-20-4 ..... .600 #15 Cooper #11 Green #10 Nixon #12 Ricketts #24 Somerset

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