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RF1 · 12-20-2012, 06:28 AM

Were either Butler or VCU helped by the A-10 with their exit fees from their former leagues or admission fee to the A-10? The A-10 would have had money via exit fees from Temple and Charlotte. I could see the league possibly helping new members making a switch. If so, what happens if one of these teams were to leave? I would hope the league built in precaustions that protected it should any of these team leave within a specified period of time. I would want to see any school that did not stay for a minimum of say five years be required to reimburse the league any money that it received to help defray exit and admission fees. If a team came and went within five years, it doesn't deserve anything from the league.

rworkman09 · 12-20-2012, 07:56 AM

The exit fees Charlotte and Temple paid were probably very very low.

bdance · 12-20-2012, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RF1

Were either Butlet or VCU helped by the A-10 with their exit fees from their former leagues or admission fee to the A-10?

I doubt it RF. Says here that not only did VCU have to pay an exit fee, they had to pay the A10 an even larger fee to join:

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/st...al-atlantic-10

I imagine Butler had to pay the same joining fee, and who knows on the exit side.

Title_BU · 12-20-2012, 08:03 AM

Butler is #2 and VCU is #23 in RPI on December 20th (1 and 2 in the A-10). Even if there was assistance (I don't believe that is the case) with the nominal exit fees, consider them earned.

bdance · 12-20-2012, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Title_BU

Butler is #2 and VCU is #23 in RPI on December 20th (1 and 2 in the A-10). Even if there was assistance (I don't believe that is the case) with the nominal exit fees, consider them earned.

You're joking, right? Nice win over IU, but we get those in the A10 every year from somebody. Even LaSalle was boasting of a number 1 RPI ranking, in December, not long ago. I don't think there was any assistance either, but if there were, it would not be paid back based on a couple of early wins, however nice they were. You're in a major conference now, you want to pay us back, a couple of wins in March would be great. And Butler obviously is more than capable.

Title_BU · 12-20-2012, 08:15 AM

I'm not sure if you are serious. I can tell you right now with 100% certainty the university would not pay a penny that was not specifically written into a contract.

Good luck with that

RF1 · 12-20-2012, 09:05 AM

My initial post is directed mostly to Butler since they may be most likely to leave under this scenario. I myself would very much have a problem if it had been helped with exit fees and or admission fees and then were to turn around within months and declare its intentions to jump conferences once again and stiff the A-10. It is my hope that the league adminsitrators would have made stipulations accounting for such an action so that any financial assistance was required to be paid back if terms were not met. I don't care how such a team performed in its short stay. That point would be moot. I would doubt any agreement would ever have had language that specified any damages were null and void if you were to beat #1 Indiana.

**xu95** · 12-20-2012, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by rworkman09

The exit fees Charlotte and Temple paid were probably very very low.

1 million if you give full notice and 2 million to leave early. That is why Temple is playing basketball here this year.

I'm not sure what the Horizon Leagues exit fees are, but I am sure they are not as high as the A10. It might be as low as a bucket of balls.

urmite · 12-20-2012, 12:20 PM

Here is an old article about Butler. Don't know if the assistance ever occurred

http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-basketb...c-10-expansion

DistrictBaller · 12-20-2012, 04:04 PM

No assistance to VCU that I know of. Not sure about Butler.

rworkman09 · 12-21-2012, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by xu95

1 million if you give full notice and 2 million to leave early. That is why Temple is playing basketball here this year.

I'm not sure what the Horizon Leagues exit fees are, but I am sure they are not as high as the A10. It might be as low as a bucket of balls.

More than I expected.

12-20-2012, 06:28 AM	#1 (permalink)
RF1 Star Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 2,742 Rep Power: 12506	Help for new members Were either Butler or VCU helped by the A-10 with their exit fees from their former leagues or admission fee to the A-10? The A-10 would have had money via exit fees from Temple and Charlotte. I could see the league possibly helping new members making a switch. If so, what happens if one of these teams were to leave? I would hope the league built in precaustions that protected it should any of these team leave within a specified period of time. I would want to see any school that did not stay for a minimum of say five years be required to reimburse the league any money that it received to help defray exit and admission fees. If a team came and went within five years, it doesn't deserve anything from the league. Last edited by RF1; 12-20-2012 at 12:32 PM.

12-20-2012, 07:56 AM	#2 (permalink)
rworkman09 Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 816 Rep Power: 600	Re: Help for new members The exit fees Charlotte and Temple paid were probably very very low. __________________ Atlantic 10 Forum Charlotte 49ers Message Board

12-20-2012, 08:03 AM	#4 (permalink)
Title_BU 6th Man Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 335 Rep Power: 7011	Re: Help for new members Butler is #2 and VCU is #23 in RPI on December 20th (1 and 2 in the A-10). Even if there was assistance (I don't believe that is the case) with the nominal exit fees, consider them earned.

12-20-2012, 08:15 AM	#6 (permalink)
Title_BU 6th Man Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 335 Rep Power: 7011	Re: Help for new members I'm not sure if you are serious. I can tell you right now with 100% certainty the university would not pay a penny that was not specifically written into a contract. Good luck with that

12-20-2012, 09:05 AM	#7 (permalink)
RF1 Star Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 2,742 Rep Power: 12506	Re: Help for new members My initial post is directed mostly to Butler since they may be most likely to leave under this scenario. I myself would very much have a problem if it had been helped with exit fees and or admission fees and then were to turn around within months and declare its intentions to jump conferences once again and stiff the A-10. It is my hope that the league adminsitrators would have made stipulations accounting for such an action so that any financial assistance was required to be paid back if terms were not met. I don't care how such a team performed in its short stay. That point would be moot. I would doubt any agreement would ever have had language that specified any damages were null and void if you were to beat #1 Indiana. Last edited by RF1; 12-20-2012 at 09:26 AM.

12-20-2012, 12:20 PM	#9 (permalink)
urmite Benchwarmer Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 148 Rep Power: 18365	Re: Help for new members Here is an old article about Butler. Don't know if the assistance ever occurred http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-basketb...c-10-expansion

12-20-2012, 04:04 PM	#10 (permalink)
DistrictBaller Veteran Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 1,122 Rep Power: 47196	Re: Help for new members No assistance to VCU that I know of. Not sure about Butler. __________________ "We will wreak havoc on our opponent's psyche and plan of attack." - VCU Head Coach Shaka Smart

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