Game Thread: Dayton @ Xavier (Wednesday 1/30/13)

[College Hoops]

Dayton was outmuscled, outhustled and outcoached the whole game. The end game failures on the missed X free throws was a microcosom of the whole game. I realize Derenbecker is not strong defensively, but UD is not a great defensive team when he is not in the game. He should get more then 9 minutes of time. Scott and Gavs must be really poor in practice if they can't cut into Benson's minutes. A team relying on seniors for performance and leadership isn't getting it. X had almost as many offensive rebounds as UD had total rebounds.

[smaills]

For Muddy...courtesy of Jeff SPLINTERS Robinson.

[Kevin Waymire]

I've gotta ask: After all of the Internet blow-jobs that muddy gave to (Devon?) Scott when he was in high school, how is it the kid can't even touch the court? Just curious, is the kid a bust, or what's his deal? I don't think I saw him play one minute last night.

[xu1990]

Originally Posted by smaills

For Muddy...courtesy of Jeff SPLINTERS Robinson.

Flagrant Elbow to the man zone. Should have been a flagrant 1 or 2 (no idea which is which) Just kidding, maybe an +1?

Can we get some cutting and pasting of the above Dunkee's high school defensive stats?

[TheCobra]

I think people expected him to be more game ready than he is, but he is a freshman big. Most thought he would be ahead of Robinson on the depth chart and that obviously hasnt happened. But Robinson does well and will be a good big man for UD for the next three years. Scott will probably be more of a role player. Like a lot of freshman bigs, I think Scott is having more trouble playing against players that he can't physically dominate.

All that said, he should have played last night. He is one of the only guys on our team that will foul someone hard or get in someone's face. Those were the types of attributes taht were lacking last night. The rebound stickback that Benson gave up to Philmore with like 4-5 minutes left was truly the most pathetic rebounding effort I have ever seen.

[xu1990]

I think Vee got him on the arm on the alley oop

Sorry cannot get the photo to upload

[FlyersandTEA4LIFE]

How much did Xavier pay the refs this game?

Awful push in the back on Dee Davis's 1/1 miss. The stripes cost us the game. We will win by 25+ at UD easily

[paulxu]

Your blathering stupidity was too much for even Faux News.

Since you've got some extra time on your hands, you might want to think about updating your signature line.

(I see you figured it out. Good job)

[a10nick]

Originally Posted by Muskeagle

wow....good call.

Originally Posted by xavierhoops

HAHAHA. This may be the single best post I've seen on here in a while. I think Mr Muddy stopped posting when Dayton was leading 20-19.

But where all my Flyer friends, other than bprichard? Take a step back off the cliff... It will be OK. There's always next year.

I asked yesterday about Flyers 3 pt shooting... and I guess the Fordham game wasn't a fluke. 50%. How does Archie not keep Derenbecker in for more than 9 minutes?? He hit three 3's in about a 5 minute span in the first half.

The two UD fans sitting next to us said that Derenbecker is so deficient in the other aspects of the game that his shooting simply isn't justification enough for Archie to give him more minutes. Almost the exact opposite of Coach Mack's situation with Landon Amos i.e. his offensive abilities are so deficient that his great hustle, defense, and rebounding are not justification enough to give him more minutes.

Of course the big differences are that Miller spent a scholarship on Derenbecker and hustle, pride, and toughness are much harder to instill in a player than getting one to work on, and improve, his shooting!

[MudFlap]

Originally Posted by xu1990

Thanks to Lance McAlister for:

Xavier: It's been 11,708 days since Dayton last beat Xavier in Cincinnati.

11,709

Rumor has it the Ref crapped in his pants, then UD crapped out as well.

[BmoreX]

Originally Posted by MudFlap

11,709

Rumor has it the Ref crapped in his pants, then UD crapped out as well.

Must have had a cheesesteak prior to the game.

[Keith Braswell]

Originally Posted by BmoreX

Must have had a cheesesteak prior to the game.

It's a good thing it came out of that end. I heard that with all the rain we are having that the septic tank known as UD arena has backed up again with raw sewage.

[Gormin71]

Wow. When your opponent grabs more offensive rebounds in a game than you grab total rebounds, you know you are in a world of hurt. I mean, damn. Box out once or twice please.

I'm not sure which Xavier player it was, I think Philmore (maybe Robinson?), epitomized the game, when he has the ball at the top of the hoop, and runs by his defender down the right side of the key, and slams it home. I mean, really, it was like the Dayton Flyers were the offensive line for their running back who is wearing a Xavier jersey.

And the Robinson alley-oop from the timeout was nice, and it was nicer when I saw the replay to see how high up he grabbed the ball. It wasn't any type of fancy throw-me-down, but he got some major hops there.

Let me list the Dayton positives: .

Well, let's at least beat Saint Louis in Saint Louis on Saturday. Wait. Butler is going to lay a smack down on them tonight, therefore we will get the revenge-minded Billikens instead of the we-just-won-no-big-thing Billikens.

At least we have the tiebreaker advantage over Fordham and Duquesne. But, crap, we play AT Rhode Island. Battle for 13th place that will be ...

[blob]

Unlike most years, this was the first time I had seen UD play. I was really impressed with the freshman Robinson. He is going to be a good one. Sanford and Derenbecker also did some nice things.

You guys may be better off without Benson. Just doesn't seem to have the right mentality out there.

Good luck the rest of the way.

[xu95]

Originally Posted by a10nick

The two UD fans sitting next to us said that Derenbecker is so deficient in the other aspects of the game that his shooting simply isn't justification enough for Archie to give him more minutes. Almost the exact opposite of Coach Mack's situation with Landon Amos i.e. his offensive abilities are so deficient that his great hustle, defense, and rebounding are not justification enough to give him more minutes.

Of course the big differences are that Miller spent a scholarship on Derenbecker and hustle, pride, and toughness are much harder to instill in a player than getting one to work on, and improve, his shooting!

I remember reading on here somewhere (I think everyone knows who posted it) that since Derenbecker transferred from a BCS school he would be ready to play from day one and be awesome.