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Old 02-13-2013, 10:08 AM   #1 (permalink)
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If the season ended today (Updated through games of 3/6)

Through 3/2

First Round Bye:
1. Saint Louis 12-2 (@X, vs LSU)
2. Virginia Commonwealth 11-3 (vs Rich, @Temple)
3. La Salle 10-4 (vs GW, @SLU)
4. Butler 9-5* (@Umass, vs X)

Opening Round Games:
5. Temple 9-5 (@Ford, vs VCU)
6. Massachusetts 8-6# (@vs BU, @URI)
7. Xavier 8-6 (vs SLU, @BU)
8. Richmond 7-7$$ (@VCU, vs Duq)
9. St. Bonaventure 7-7$ (@UD, vs Ford)
10. Saint Joseph's 7-7 (vs URI, @Char)
11. George Washington 6-8&& (@LSU, vs UD)
12. Dayton 6-8& (vs SBU, @GW)

Going Home Early:
13. Charlotte 6-8 (@Duq, vs SJU)
14. Rhode Island 3-11 (@SJU, vs Umass)
15. Fordham 2-12 (vs Temple, @SBU)
16. Duquesne 1-13 (vs Char, @Rich)

*beat Temple head to head
#beat Xavier head to head
$$ based on 1-0 against VCU (all 7-7 teams are 1-1 against each other)
$ based on head to head victory over St Joe's (see post below for explanation)
&& based on 1-0 against other 6-8 teams and 1-1 against teams 8-6
& based on 1-0 against other 6-8 teams and 1-2 against teams 8-6 (Charlotte 0-2 against other 6-8 teams)
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The following tie-breaker format is utilized for determining the seeding in the Atlantic 10 Men’s Basketball Championship:

TWO-TEAM TIE
1. Head-to-head competition.
2. Conference record of the tied teams based on winning percentage
versus the highest common opponent and proceeding down to the
lowest common opponent, if necessary, until one team gains an
advantage.
a. All ties are broken in descending order.
b. When arriving at another pair of tied teams, use each team’s record
against the tied teams as a group. When comparing records against a
group of teams, the higher winning percentage will prevail. In case of
tied percentages vs. the team or group of 1.000 or .000, the following
shall apply: 2-0 is better than 1-0; 0-1 is better than 0-2.
3. Coin toss.

THREE-OR-MORE-TEAM TIE
1. Head-to-head competition.
a. Use each team’s record against the tied teams as a group rather than
performance against individual teams. When comparing records against
a group of teams, the higher winning percentage will prevail. In case of
tied percentages vs. the team or group of 1.000 or .000, the following
shall apply: 2-0 is better than 1-0; 0-1 is better than 0-2.
2. If the above results in two teams remaining, the two-team tiebreaker is used.
3. If more than two teams still remain, use the Conference record of the
tied teams based on winning percentage versus the highest common
opponent and proceeding down to the lowest common opponent, if
necessary, until one team gains an advantage.
a. All ties are broken in descending order.
b. When arriving at another pair of tied teams, use each team’s record
against the tied teams as a group. When comparing records against a
group of teams, the higher winning percentage will prevail. In case of
tied percentages vs. the team or group of 1.000 or .000, the following
shall apply: 2-0 is better than 1-0; 0-1 is better than 0-2.
3. Draw lots.

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4. Two-man Sack Races on Consecutive Sundays.

Nice work trying to figure out some of these ties.
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looks good so far, maybe it will be easy this year....lol
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Wow, that was a fairly significant amount of work.

I would put the odds of X being a top 4 seed after the A-10 finishes at 10-1
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The top 5 teams all have most of their games against each other still to be played. What a finish to the season.
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Always a great thread, thanks for picking up the work
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Wow, that was a fairly significant amount of work.

I would put the odds of X being a top 4 seed after the A-10 finishes at 10-1
I don't know, I think their odds are better than that, based on remaining schedules and venues.
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The battle for 13th is going to be gross. I certainly hope UR is able to survive it, not least of all because I live walking distance from Barclays.

Assuming they do, today's standings would be disastrous for Richmond. Teams that I think are horrible matchups for Richmond include both Lasalle and Butler.
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The top 5 teams all have most of their games against each other still to be played. What a finish to the season.
The only team in the top 8 La Salle hasn't played already is St. Louis (a road game on senior night we will probably lose). The conference is way too deep to assume that just because 6 out of last 7 games are against teams looking up at us, that we will win those 6.
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Good work, but



I feel like this.

Except replace "Ron" with "Lari".

Not official til Lari says so.
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Lari was looking for someone to take it over and it looks like xu95 will give it a shot. Everyone here will help out as well since it does get complicated
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interesting that Charlotte holds tie breakers vs. #4, #5 and #6, but not #7 and #8.
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The only one I wasn't sure about was Xavier at 4 and UMASS at 5, but I assumed that the league considered a (0-0) record against St. Louis as better than a (0-1) record. They are both 0%, but they clearly say in their rules that if the percentage is the same the amount of wins or losses matter and they used the example of (0-1) is better than (0-2).

What I'm wondering is if Xavier's non-conference victory against Butler would be used in a tiebreaker if it came to it or if they only count conference games. I don't think the league took into account that that could ever happen.
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If UMASS wins tonight, you have five teams tied for slots 2 through 6.
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