Free Quebec

Northestern for academics. That's awesome!

By the way, SLU may have a great arena, but their team is almost all juniors and seniors. Two years from now, they could struggle to win 10 games without a monster recruiting class.

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A Wall St. banker, a tea party guy, and a union guy all sit down a table with 12 cookies.

The Wall St. banker takes 11 cookies, turns to the tea party guy and says, "That union guy wants a piece of your cookie."

Muddy Waters

butlerguy03,

Given that it is no longer disputed by anyone (except for two Xavier die-hards who since have joined 'Muddy's Ignore List') that the new C7 conference will have 12 schools split into an East Division and a West Division, your post is about as relevant as yesterday's bus pass.

The topic of this thread is 'C-7 to be 12 to 14 teams?' - not which 10 teams you think are best.

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MudFlap

Since no decision has been made and no one has been invited, everything is pure speculation at this point. So, therefore, Muddy must be right as usual. he has so many people on ignore, he is basically talking to himself at this point.

Title_BU

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/goldeneagles.html

This guy is effectively saying what I was told a few nights ago: its going to be Richmond, SLU, UD, Butler, and Xavier

Outside of Creighton presenting a case, that'd make Dayton probably nervous, there's not much more to discuss.

Muddy Waters

If any Dayton fans are nervous about losing out to Creighton in the new 12-team C7 conference, they shouldn't be.

BTW - the anticipated departure of Richmond will leave the Atlantic 10 as a 9-team league.

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UMass87

Shit...we need another Butler loss. Title_BU is back.

res

...and an A10 message board without 93% of its ridiculous or otherwise inane posts. That's a fair trade as far as I'm concerned.

(And it goes without saying, I hope, that this is not directed at Richmond posters.)

MudFlap

Feinstein's right about as often as Muddy.

AdamtheFlyer

Feinstein's books on basketball and golf are some of the best sports books you will ever read, especially The Last Amateurs and Tales from Q-School (my favorite sports book by a wide margin). No question his years doing what he does has led to sources in high places.

That said, I don't trust him as much as I would trust McMurphy. I wouldn't just throw what Feinstein writes away, either, but he shouldn't be taken as seriously as some others. He can cover a game or an event and paint pictures with his words as well as anyone, but when it comes to news breaking, I will stick to news breakers. That doesn't mean he is right or wrong.

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Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.

ace93

What does VCU do if not invited to the Cotillion? I am not sure what options they have, but is there some upheavel potential there? I have to presume they are not too thrilled with how things are playing out with the A10, I mean had they known this would happen (not that anybody could have that it would happen this quickly), they would have been better of sticking it out in the CAA, seeing if they got an invite and if not then moving to the A10 then if it still seemed attractive enough (which it probably wouldn't). As it is they gave up NCAA tournament money to the CAA if I recall correctly and could now be stuck in a very mediocre conference.

Muddy Waters

The assertions that Feinstein published in the Washington Post were implicitly confirmed by the unnamed Marquette official interviewed by Michael Hunt of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

If this Marquette official took the time and effort to dispute relatively minor points (such as Detroit and Siena being considerd for the C7, and the extent of interest of the six other Catholic 7 presidents in the process), this Marquette official would have gone ballistic if Feinstein was incorrect about a 12-team C7 conference, or was wrong about names of the four schools who "are virtual locks to be invited".

The absence of a denial by this Marquette official can reasonably be inferred as his agreement with the assertions that he chose not to dispute.

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Moliva

I agree. This writer, Mike Hunt, basically wrote a piece intended to discredit Feinstein but he inadvertently confirmed everything that Feinstein wrote.

AdamtheFlyer

I see what you did there.

Non-denial denials are a tough nut to crack. I don't do the lawyerin', so I tend to avoid scrutinizing every word. But hey, let's do it. What I see is someone saying Detroit and Siena are not options, something that didn't need to be said. That was pure and utter puffery by Feinstein. Nowhere in that post is anyone, named or sourced, confirming Creighton and VCU are not real options. They may not be, I know Title_BU has said here and another board that he's heard from a good source that the 5 are picked and do not include those schools. But this Marquette guy didn't say it.

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Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.

Palestra1

This thread is awesome. Watching people interpret every public statement as confirming their preferred outcome or knowledge of priviliged information is just comical.

As for VCU, if they aren't invited to the cotillion they'll join the rest of their A-10 buddies at the bar to drown their sorrows. It's unlikely they'll have anywhere else to go in the near-term and they'll still be better off in a weakened A-10 than the CAA. That conference is absolutely putrid.

Artis Gilmore's alma mater is not getting an invitation (but seeing them mentioned did make me chuckle) and I doubt Northeastern will either. Hockey is and always will be the primary focus of their AD and the A-10 will, rightly, look for schools that emphasize basketball. The likely suspects have already been mentioned. My guess is that GMU, Davidson and Siena are at the top of the list. I wonder if Hofstra will get any consideration? They're a good fit geographically and institutionally and they don't sponsor football. They'd be a completely mediocre addition, I'm just wondering if they'll get considered. Ugh. I'm so tired of watching the A-10 get plundered over the years.

Moliva

I understand what you're saying. But how about the fact that the writer originally had "Richmond" in there and replaced it with "Detroit" about an hour later?

Sure, there's a chance that the writer simply misread his notes and corrected himself but I don't see that as likely. Most likely, he got an angry phone call from a source who told him to change/correct it.

I have no idea if Richmond is going to be included or not, but the edit in that article tells me that we are a probably player.