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Old 02-16-2013, 06:00 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: C-7 to be 12 to 14 teams?

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Sources: ESPN Has One Week to Act (Brett McMurphy, ESPN - updated Feb. 15, 2013)

"The new league, yet to be formed, is expected to have 12-to-14 members.

The most likely candidates to join the Catholic schools, sources have told ESPN, are Butler, Xavier, Creighton, Dayton, Saint Louis, Richmond, and VCU."

Catholic 7 Basketball Reportedly Worth More than Big East Rights (Feb. 11, 2013)

If the Catholic 7 does add Butler, Xavier, Dayton, Creighton, and possibly even VCU it would form a basketball league that could rival the major conferences in America.





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Dayton might be in that coffin.
The talk of a 10-team 'Catholic' conference ended a long time ago.

The probability of Dayton being left out of a 12-team conference is close to 0 %, and the probability of Dayton being left out of a 14-team conference is 0 %.

If the Atlantic 10 loses Temple, Charlotte, Butler, Xavier, Dayton, Saint Louis, Richmond, and VCU, (or most of those teams) the Barclay's Center will cancel their contract with the Atlantic 10 and give it to the new conference faster than the blink of an eye.


Do you think Rhode Island will choose to remain in a depleted A10 conference that has Duquesne as their western boundary, or will the Rams try to join a New England conference for all sports ?


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Old 02-16-2013, 06:20 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: C-7 to be 12 to 14 teams?

I'm tempted to de-ignore Muddy to get his view on this topic. Could it have to do with Dayton's ability (if it can ride X's coattails again) to win more than three games per year in this new league?
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Personally, I like the idea of a larger 14 to 16 team league. Depending upon the members, it can be more national in scope with the the attendant publicity benefits;
This is why I think, after we find out who is leaving, the A10 should add schools to get back to 14, or even 16. Home and home rivalries are fun, but that's not something it seems like we can afford to do now. Of course, more teams splits the pie more, but more teams also makes the pie bigger, in my opinion.

But, you know, maybe I'm wrong.
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This is why I think, after we find out who is leaving, the A10 should add schools to get back to 14, or even 16. Home and home rivalries are fun, but that's not something it seems like we can afford to do now. Of course, more teams splits the pie more, but more teams also makes the pie bigger, in my opinion.

But, you know, maybe I'm wrong.
If the worst happened and all six of those schools left, how would the A10 even get back to 14 or 16? Which schools would we add? Getting back to 12 would seem to be a stretch.
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What, exactly, do you know about it? Christ, a guy's school is in a league for five minutes...
Isn't that guy a Boston U. fan, not a Butler fan? I think I recall seeing that before. If so, that explains thing a bit as Boston had been pining for the A10 for year, but the feeling was not mutual and now they are headed to the PL so the idea of them being equals is wishful thinkin on their part.
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Isn't that guy a Boston U. fan, not a Butler fan? I think I recall seeing that before. If so, that explains thing a bit as Boston had been pining for the A10 for year, but the feeling was not mutual and now they are headed to the PL so the idea of them being equals is wishful thinkin on their part.
If that's the case, then my apologies. Even if the A10 had to rebuild with those eight schools, it would be in better shape over the long run than those three leagues. Take a close look at the CAA after this season. I'd be surprised if GMU wasn't actively trying to leave that league. However this works out, the A10 will be okay.
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Do you think Rhode Island will choose to remain in a depleted A10 conference that has Duquesne as their western boundary, or will the Rams try to join a New England conference for all sports ?
Unlike others, I don't pretend to know what will transpire and try not to waste too much time contemplating it. I do know though that Rhode island will be disappointed if the Flyers are no longer a conference mate. It would be a shame for URI to lose a near certain win each season.
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The talk of a 10-team 'Catholic' conference ended a long time ago.
If your world yes. In reality, no.

Outside of the money, which noone can turn down, I don't understand UD's fanbase obsession with being invited to the C7+Xavier and Butler. UD can't be successful against the likes of the A-10.... they won't be succesful playing in a conference with the bigger dogs, either.
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Re: C-7 to be 12 to 14 teams?

How many more threads do we need on this topic? I admit it, I'm put off by the whole thing.
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Re: C-7 to be 12 to 14 teams?


xavierhoops - the only place a 10-team 'Catholic' conference is still being mentioned is on the Musketeer Madness MB.

If you disagree, post a link to a recently-published article from a reputable source stating that a 10-team confenence is still being considered by Fox Sports. You can't, because there is none.

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UD ... won't be succesful playing in a conference with the bigger dogs, either.
Another unsubstantiated rubbish claim by a Xavier fan.

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Dillard Leads Dayton Past Alabama 81-76 (AP/Yahoo! - December 6, 2012)
TUSCALOOSA, Ala. (AP) -- Kevin Dillard scored 25 points and Josh Benson 19 to lead Dayton to an 81-76 victory over Alabama on Wednesday night.

It was the seventh straight win against SEC opponents for the Flyers (6-2), who improved to 19-8 in the past six seasons against teams from BCS conferences.

xavierhoops - what is Xavier's record in the past six seasons against teams from BCS conferences?


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Re: C-7 to be 12 to 14 teams?

Ha! There you have it, Xavier fans. Now, Dayton is better than Xavier because they can beat teams in the SEC. That, and of course, they scored more points against Xavier last year.
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xavierhoops - the only place a 10-team 'Catholic' conference is still being mentioned is on the Musketeer Madness MB.

If you disagree, post a link to a recently-published article from a reputable source stating that a 10-team confenence is still being considered by Fox Sports. You can't, because there is none.
Uh, pretty much every article, blog, report says 10 or 12 teams. This is the first one I've seen that seriously mentions 14.
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xavierhoops - I fixed your faulty post:


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Uh, pretty much every article, blog, report in December and January says 10 or 12 teams.
This is February.

The C7 situation has progressed in February, with Fox Sports, NBC Sports, and ESPN Sports all making specific proposals to the C7 schools based on a 12 or 14 conference, comprised of 5 or 7 specific (but publicly-undisclosed) additional schools.

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Another unsubstantiated rubbish claim by a Xavier fan.


xavierhoops - what is Xavier's record in the past six seasons against teams from BCS conferences?
Well, Xavier doesn't play football nor joining a BCS league so I'm not sure of the relevance, but if you must know after a quick count, I think Xavier is 32-16 vs BCS teams over the past 6 years.

To go along with 5 A-10 Championships, 6 NCAA Tournament appearances, 2 Sweet 16's and 1 Elite 8... in 6 years.

Still quite confused how it is a "rubbish claim" to suggest Dayton will likely be at the bottom of the C7+Xavier and Butler when UD can't get above the middle of the pack (and this year very bottom of the pack) in the A-10.
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The C7 situation has progressed in February, with Fox Sports, NBC Sports, and ESPN Sports all making specific proposals to the C7 schools based on a 12 or 14 conference, comprised of 5 or 7 specific (but publicly-undisclosed) additional schools.
You truly are delusional. NBC Sports? ESPN? It's been Fox all along.

And maybe I am missing something.... but is 14 teams now the widely accepted prediction for the C7+Xavier and Butler Conference? Has anyone else seen this widely reported? This was really the first article I've seen 14 seriously mentioned.
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