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Old 02-16-2013, 03:39 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Re: C-7 to be 12 to 14 teams?

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Though I do prefer a 10 team league, then 12, then 14. If it's 14, at that point you have to consider Gonzaga. I just don't think the league gets that high. At least not initially.
When you guys get to 16 you can vote the rest of us in.
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Old 02-16-2013, 03:41 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Re: C-7 to be 12 to 14 teams?

This Catholic CYO league thing is like the reality show game Survivor.
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Old 02-16-2013, 08:02 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Re: C-7 to be 12 to 14 teams?

Lot of hoopla so far(pun intended). Basically, still day 1.
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Old 02-16-2013, 10:29 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Re: C-7 to be 12 to 14 teams?

From the Washington Post:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports...06b_story.html

Relevant parts:

"In all likelihood, four schools are virtual locks to be invited: Dayton, Xavier, Saint Louis and Butler."

"The conference leaders want six eastern and six western — really, midwestern — schools. The eastern division of the league will consist of Georgetown, St. John’s, Seton Hall, Villanova, Providence and either Richmond (also a non-Catholic school) or Siena — a late entry but a potentially appealing one because it’s a Catholic school that (more importantly) plays in a 15,500-seat arena in Albany, N.Y."

Were I a Richmond fan and they took Siena over my team, I would probably just give up on the entire concept of college basketball. Siena has had a decent amount of post-season appearances in the last ten years, but Richmond seems like a cut above them.

As always, take all of this with a grain of salt.
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Old 02-17-2013, 08:13 AM   #50 (permalink)
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Re: C-7 to be 12 to 14 teams?

The mention of Siena is bizarre and makes me question the validity of his sources. Richmond is hardly the only team that would be head and shoulders above Siena.
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Re: C-7 to be 12 to 14 teams?

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If I were a Dayton fan, I would be very nervous about things.

I could very well see another Great Midwest/CUSA scenario where the Flyers are once again left behind.
More wishful thinking from another uninformed begrudger.


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http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports...06b_story.html

"In all likelihood, four schools are virtual locks to be invited: Dayton, Xavier, Saint Louis and Butler."
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Re: C-7 to be 12 to 14 teams?

I'm a Saint Louis fan, and I'm plenty nervous about it.
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Re: C-7 to be 12 to 14 teams?

Best part of that John Feinstein article is when he suggested that Butler might decline an invite to stay in the A-10.

My inside sources tell me that Chicago State, Alabama State, SIU-Edwardsville, Fairleigh Dickenson, and Binghamton will be invited. I'm about as credible as John Feinstein on this subject.
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Best part of that John Feinstein article is when he suggested that Butler might decline an invite to stay in the A-10.

My inside sources tell me that Chicago State, Alabama State, SIU-Edwardsville, Fairleigh Dickenson, and Binghamton will be invited. I'm about as credible as John Feinstein on this subject.
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The mention of Siena is bizarre and makes me question the validity of his sources. Richmond is hardly the only team that would be head and shoulders above Siena.
They've dropped back down after McCaffrey left, so it's not based on success.

You may remember this stuff from when A10 expansion was discussed, but Siena has some things going for it. They've built a sizable fanbase in the region, average around 6 - 8,000 a game despite a very lackluster schedule, in a fairly nice arena in downtown Albany, are centered in a decent-sized media area (though probably not quite as big as Richmond), and have little competition from other schools in the immediate area. They're also still fairly strongly Catholic.

Don't get me wrong, it's still a stretch, but it's often not as much of a stretch as people think. They have a lot of potential, if a coach can bring more success and they can get into a better conference (e.g. A10 after teams leave?).
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Re: C-7 to be 12 to 14 teams?

Feinstein might be arrogant and come off as kind of a jerk sometimes, but he does write for the Washington Post and not SBNation.com. He's also penned more college basketball books than all of us have and no doubt has a laundry list of contacts and sources, even if some have stonewalled him. I'm pretty sure he wasn't just making stuff up in this piece. Siena is not a huge reach in terms of what its profile is, but I'd still be surprised if it got an invite.
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Re: C-7 to be 12 to 14 teams?

Look at it this way: if Siena and Detroit may be good enough for consideration for the C7, might they be good enough for consideration to help restock the A10 once the neutron bomb explodes?

And, I too would be surprised if the league goes to 14 teams right away and takes bothRichmond and VCU. Why would the TV-obsessed league take two teams from Richmond but only one each from NYC (ok, two if you consider Seton Hall), Philadelphia, Chicago, DC, Milwaukee and none technically from Boston (Providence is NOT Boston)?
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Re: C-7 to be 12 to 14 teams?

My question is whether or not Georgetown would want both Richmond and VCU in the C7 because it would really dilute their coverage in the media in the D.C. area media. I think they would be okay with one new member from the area, but I have trouble seeing them being comfortable with two.
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Re: C-7 to be 12 to 14 teams?

The DC media does not pay any attention to Richmond. I can attest to this having grown up in Northern Virginia. You would have thought Richmond was located in South Carolina and not 90 minutes away. Georgetown has no worries there, I am certain.
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Best part of that John Feinstein article is when he suggested that Butler might decline an invite to stay in the A-10.

My inside sources tell me that Chicago State, Alabama State, SIU-Edwardsville, Fairleigh Dickenson, and Binghamton will be invited. I'm about as credible as John Feinstein on this subject.
I heard Lindenwood is preferred over SIU-E because Fox really wants the St. Charles market. That's per Dick Vitale...
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