The Future A10 Thread

[mm4cc]

GMU only makes sense if richmond leaves instead of dayton. It would introduce a natural rival to VCU which would be essential to the survival of the new league. If Dayton gets the invite over Richmond the new A10 will be held up on the shoulders of the richmond city rivalry. It is really the only thing the new A10 would have going for it. VCU is the new top dog in the A10 and having a competitive rivalry with them could save this conference.

[res]

Originally Posted by SDW

I love Richmond's new division! Road trips to Jacksonville and Wichita! And both my parents are Bucknell alumni, I can't wait to visit the Lewisburg federal penitentiary when the Spiders play there!

Oh, it's not so bad. My mother used to play bridge with the warden's wife when my parents lived there back around 1950. (They also used to play cards with Chef Boyardee and his wife up the road at the Milton Elks Club, but that's a different story.)

I think once you figure out how to beat them either home or away it won't seem such a bad trip.

[fvp47]

A10BBALL; good post in response to Indian. I will admit that as a LaSalle grad I have a bias but I see some of the comments about eliminating teams to be silly, yes even Fordham, and some of the suggestions as to who to add to be even more so.
I took a quick look at RPI from 07-09 to current year for just LaSalle and St. Joe, with a brief look at St. Louis.
LaSalle 163, 112, 171, 181, 83, 35 The year they were 171 they had three starters out at one time from mid to end of the season.
St. Joe 44, 105, 176, 205, 66, 84
I fail to see a significant difference here other then great improvement on the part of LaSalle. However I seen no one screaming to eliminate the Hawks.
Interesting to note that St. Louis was 138 in 07-08 and 174 in 10-11.
It is too bad that the conference will be severely diminished after having recvently risen,and especially this year. A few years of success would have led to better TV contracts and made leaving less appealing.
In the meantime "Get a grip", it's basketball not life and death.

[fvp47]

A10BBALL,

Note my comment on "Get a grip, it's basketball not life and death" was not directed at you as your posts seem to reasonable in their approach.

[Rashti19]

I don't understand how you can credibly talk about banishing La Salle or Bonas at this point in time. Bona went to the tournament last year, a small but passionate fanbase and, while not elite, they have been decent this year after losing an NBA player. La Salle is looking like a likely NCAA team this year, NIT last year, and returns almost everyone. Alright, the arena is terrible, but it's not like you're credibly offering teams that could replace them. Northeastern? They are melting down in the CAA and don't draw. No one is getting banished.

[ExplorerSteve]

Originally Posted by SpiderInTheMixingBowl

I WILL FILL THE VOID.

As Dr. Dog says "Be the Void!"

[El Shaqtus]

Originally Posted by fvp47

A10BBALL; good post in response to Indian. I will admit that as a LaSalle grad I have a bias but I see some of the comments about eliminating teams to be silly, yes even Fordham, and some of the suggestions as to who to add to be even more so.
I took a quick look at RPI from 07-09 to current year for just LaSalle and St. Joe, with a brief look at St. Louis.
LaSalle 163, 112, 171, 181, 83, 35 The year they were 171 they had three starters out at one time from mid to end of the season.
St. Joe 44, 105, 176, 205, 66, 84
I fail to see a significant difference here other then great improvement on the part of LaSalle. However I seen no one screaming to eliminate the Hawks.
Interesting to note that St. Louis was 138 in 07-08 and 174 in 10-11.
It is too bad that the conference will be severely diminished after having recvently risen,and especially this year. A few years of success would have led to better TV contracts and made leaving less appealing.
In the meantime "Get a grip", it's basketball not life and death.

10-11 for SLU was the year that Kwamain and Willie got kicked off the team. That's where the guys playing now got a lot of experience.

[themusk88]

why does the new big east need a bad dayton program? they have depaul

[Rashti19]

Originally Posted by El Shaqtus

10-11 for SLU was the year that Kwamain and Willie got kicked off the team. That's where the guys playing now got a lot of experience.

Right, but the year before that, La Salle lost three senior starters for the year to injuries. You can't disregard a year for extreme circumstances in one program without affording the same to another.

[El Shaqtus]

Originally Posted by Rashti19

Right, but the year before that, La Salle lost three senior starters for the year to injuries. You can't disregard a year for extreme circumstances in one program without affording the same to another.

I didn't. I just put 174 in context. I'm not disregarding it, because it happened.

[Rambunctious Rowdy]

Originally Posted by mm4cc

GMU only makes sense if richmond leaves instead of dayton. It would introduce a natural rival to VCU which would be essential to the survival of the new league. If Dayton gets the invite over Richmond the new A10 will be held up on the shoulders of the richmond city rivalry. It is really the only thing the new A10 would have going for it. VCU is the new top dog in the A10 and having a competitive rivalry with them could save this conference.

Let me kill this rival thing before it starts. They are not our rival nor were they ever a rival. GMU tried to make us their rival due the jealously of the VCU/ODU rivalry. VCU doesn't care about Mason because we owned them in big games (in particular the CAA tourney where they never beat us. 0-6 all time.) VCU fans couldn't careless about them. Mason fans were obsessed with us. The "F*** you VCU" at our fans last time we played them at Patriot Center basically sums up how they feel about us(beat us on a buzzer beater after 4 consecutive 3's in the last minute). Of course that meant very little when we beat the hell out of them at Siegel Center and in the Coliseum a few weeks later. They are not our rival though. They just happened to be a VA team that was top of the conference with us each year. Times have changed though. Mason doesn't care about its athletics anymore.

[ace93]

Fordham's new'ish AD, David Roach, said today on WFUV radio that he believes the A10 will look to stick to 12 teams. That would mean that without anything official on anyone beyond Xavier and Butler, we should not expect any announcements from the A10.

While I think 12 is a very good number for a conference, I think it puts us at risk of eventually having to add an unattractive dare I say, Fordham-like program, if UMass ends up bolting. If the 12 we had left were deemed stable, I would see sticking at 12 as the right move, but due to instability, I feel otherrwise.

[UMass87]

UMass bolting from the A10 is probably not very likely. UMass is not going to go to MAC all sports and the football BE just isn't a good geographic fit for the olympic sports. Unless an invitation from a real conference, like the ACC, were to come to UMass I doubt they will leave the A10. Fact is that the chances of UMass getting an ACC invite are about as good as Fordham getting to the Dance. Frankly, I'm surprised that Temple isn't trying to get back into the MAC for football so that it can stay in the A10.

[ace93]

Well if that is the case, then I think 12 is a fine number. I would not add for the sake of adding.

If I were McGlade I would be on the phone with the C7, whoever the right person might be, and asking them what their plans were. No guarantee you get an honest answer, but you might and then you know what your next move should be.

Also, what are the chances that once X and Butt are gone that the A10 increases their exit fee?

[Simms]

Hopefully good. I would like to see it increased to something like 4 or 5 million. Also, what are the chances we can keep Barclays without X and Butler?