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Old 03-07-2013, 04:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Throw out Dayton and St Louis now?

X and Butler are gone we know

Dayton and StL are working behind the scenes to be gone next year. Its not good for the remaining schools to be stuck with these two actively trying to get out and preventing the A10 from solidifying the conference and moving on.

Anyway to force them out now and go get replacements?

Dealing with all this defection talk and lame duck teams for a whole year is just draining the conference and its bad PR, hurts recruting.

Cut the cancer out now and be done with it.
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Anyway to force them out now and go get replacements?
No.

The Atlantic 10 Charter does not have a provision for the involuntary removal of a member school.

If there had been such a provision, it would have been used by now.

But fortunately for Fordham . . .



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Dayton's not going anywhere. Nobody wants them.
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Dayton's not going anywhere. Nobody wants them.
You're so right. The program is just in shambles.
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X and Butler are gone we know

Dayton and StL are working behind the scenes to be gone next year. Its not good for the remaining schools to be stuck with these two actively trying to get out and preventing the A10 from solidifying the conference and moving on.

Anyway to force them out now and go get replacements?

Dealing with all this defection talk and lame duck teams for a whole year is just draining the conference and its bad PR, hurts recruting.

Cut the cancer out now and be done with it.
WOW!!!

We've lived with the likes of Fordham, Duquesne, and LaSalle not contributing a thing to the A-10 since 1995 but, seemingly, it's okay to consistently give them a healthy slice of the A-10 pie that others have baked.

Did it ever occur to you that SLU and/or UD could earn a slot in the NCAA Tourney next year and add considerably to the A-10 riches that will be divided up over the following years? Without having to contend with Temple, Butler, Xavier (and maybe Richmond or VCU), programs like UD and SLU would be even more likely to enjoy great success in the Conference and earn trips to the Big Show. By getting rid of them (which, historically, the A-10 is unlikely to do), the League would be cutting its nose off to spite its face. It would greatly reduce the respectability of the League and make it more difficult for remaining members to get an at-large berth in the NCAA Tourney.

Cancer indeed!!!
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You can't do this. Follow the league's rules, pay the exit fees, and do what thou wilt.
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Re: Throw out Dayton and St Louis now?

So will the A-10 raid the CAA or the CAA raid the A-10?
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So will the A-10 raid the CAA or the CAA raid the A-10?
The CAA will absolutely not raid the A10. The remaining A10 schools have a pretty nice chunk of change coming their way from the exit fees, new TV deal, and leftover NCAA units.
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Re: Throw out Dayton and St Louis now?

I want Dayton to remain in the A10.

Dayton fans on the other hand...........
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Re: Throw out Dayton and St Louis now?

Worst thread evar!!
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Old 03-07-2013, 07:44 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: Throw out Dayton and St Louis now?


If the Atlantic 10 Charter did have a provision for the involuntary removal of a member school, Fordham would not have been the only school to get the boot:


Final RPI Rankings: 2002-03 through 2011-12 (compiled by 434)

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Team	  02-03 03-04 04-05 05-06 06-07 07-08 08-09 09-10 10-11 11-12  Avg RPI

Xavier       23    20   130    72    27     9    15    17    26    37     37.6
Butler       21   152   239    80    22    16    22     7    19   105     68.3
Dayton       17    37   117   184    76    28    26    37    80    91     69.3
Saint Louis  77    58   184   102    74   135   130    80   183    28    105.1

VCU  	   135    45    91    74    44    60    51    46    31    34     61.1
St Joes	    29     2    47    53    97    50   105   184   163    75     80.5  
Richmond    106    39   146   205   272   129   124    24    33   131    120.9
URI	    92    69   301   152   108    74    61    36   103   262    125.8
GW	   163    65    61    31    70   185   203   148   150   189    126.5
LaSalle	   189   170   215   103   268   163   110   178   172    96    166.4
Duquesne    252   162   258   308   219   130    76   112   100   110    172.7

St Bona     139   210   312   289   278   265   199   156   128    78    205.4
Fordham     282   212   189   138   112   172   292   304   255   242    220.2
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Re: Throw out Dayton and St Louis now?

Keep 'em. SLU will likely be pretty good which will boost our resumes. Dayton will be fun to have around and ultimately not do anything of importance yet again.

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Final RPI Rankings: 2002-03 through 2011-12 (compiled by 434)

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Team	  02-03 03-04 04-05 05-06 06-07 07-08 08-09 09-10 10-11 11-12  Avg RPI

Xavier       23    20   130    72    27     9    15    17    26    37     37.6
Butler       21   152   239    80    22    16    22     7    19   105     68.3
Dayton       17    37   117   184    76    28    26    37    80    91     69.3
Saint Louis  77    58   184   102    74   135   130    80   183    28    105.1

VCU  	   135    45    91    74    44    60    51    46    31    34     61.1
St Joes	    29     2    47    53    97    50   105   184   163    75     80.5  
Richmond    106    39   146   205   272   129   124    24    33   131    120.9
URI	    92    69   301   152   108    74    61    36   103   262    125.8
GW	   163    65    61    31    70   185   203   148   150   189    126.5
LaSalle	   189   170   215   103   268   163   110   178   172    96    166.4
Duquesne    252   162   258   308   219   130    76   112   100   110    172.7

St Bona     139   210   312   289   278   265   199   156   128    78    205.4
Fordham     282   212   189   138   112   172   292   304   255   242    220.2
Love this. Checking out SLU. They're the epitome of average. The 28 help, and there is a decent 58 thrown in but for the most part they've been forgetful. The Catholic 7 has no idea what it's doing... or actually, maybe they do.
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If the Atlantic 10 Charter did have a provision for the involuntary removal of a member school, Fordham would not have been the only school to get the boot:


Final RPI Rankings: 2002-03 through 2011-12 (compiled by 434)

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Team	  02-03 03-04 04-05 05-06 06-07 07-08 08-09 09-10 10-11 11-12  Avg RPI

Xavier       23    20   130    72    27     9    15    17    26    37     37.6
Butler       21   152   239    80    22    16    22     7    19   105     68.3
Dayton       17    37   117   184    76    28    26    37    80    91     69.3
Saint Louis  77    58   184   102    74   135   130    80   183    28    105.1

VCU  	   135    45    91    74    44    60    51    46    31    34     61.1
St Joes	    29     2    47    53    97    50   105   184   163    75     80.5  
Richmond    106    39   146   205   272   129   124    24    33   131    120.9
URI	    92    69   301   152   108    74    61    36   103   262    125.8
GW	   163    65    61    31    70   185   203   148   150   189    126.5
LaSalle	   189   170   215   103   268   163   110   178   172    96    166.4
Duquesne    252   162   258   308   219   130    76   112   100   110    172.7

St Bona     139   210   312   289   278   265   199   156   128    78    205.4
Fordham     282   212   189   138   112   172   292   304   255   242    220.2
What, UMass not good enough to make your table?
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Re: Throw out Dayton and St Louis now?

Take the thread for what it's worth - a disgruntled Saint Joe's fan who simply wants the Hawks to have the easiest path possible to an NCAA Tournament bid year after year. The only reason the Hawks haven't gotten more heat on this board is because their troll fans have just enough sense not to make themselves heard on here.

This year at least, the heat for Martelli is justified. I'm amazed that Guster hasn't celebrated more often on here.
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I want Dayton to remain in the A10.

Dayton fans on the other hand...........
I'm very concerned about the fate of this board. With X in the Big East next year, we won't have any X fans responding to Dayton trolls. We won't have any Dayton fans responding to X trolls. Anyone want to take a guess on the reduction in number of posts next season? Temple also has a good number of posters and Charlotte has a few. I'm thinking 40% total reduction.

It's cool. I'm used to yelling and screaming in solitude in a (padded) room.
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