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Old 03-24-2013, 09:17 PM   #76 (permalink)
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This was a slam dunk. Of the schools that fit with the A10, George Mason is the best choice by a wide margin.
I think most of us would agree that GMU is the best shot available at the moment, but certainly not a slam dunk like VCU and Butler were. More like an open 17 foot jumper. The real issue is, we had plenty of time left on the shot clock. If the clock is winding down, sure, take that shot, but that shot isn't so high percentage that you fire it up on the first open look.

Put it another way: St. Bonaventure, which failed to qualify for the A10 tournament, had a better RPI than Mason this season. Maybe they can turn things around, but historically, teams which join the A10 on a downswing tend to continue to struggle while in the A10. Conversely, teams that join the A10 on an upswing tend to remain successful (Charlotte being the lone exception). Admittedly, there aren't any realistic "upswing" expansion candidates out there, but that doesn't mean we need the best of the downswing teams. Not when we've already got 12 members.

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Old 03-24-2013, 09:21 PM   #77 (permalink)
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I have no strong feelings about this. I like that it adds some rivalries. I like that GMU has strong fan/institutional support. Obviously, they haven't been amazing the last couple of seasons, but they still seem like the best of limited options, unless the A10 wants to consider making a strong move to the south.
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This is good from a GW perspective (local rival, maybe the A-10 will actually get some media attention now).

But it's bad from a basketball perspective. We finally - finally - can see an end to the Dayton-Xavier flame wars that basically ruined this forum, and now, judging by this thread, are about to be subjected to VCU -GMU ripping and trolling each other. Ugh.
Not speaking for my Mason brethren, but I honestly don't think you'll see much ripping from our end. We have a couple noteworthy trolls, as do most schools, but we're generally not overly combative.

I just didn't think it was right to have a VCU "fan" going on and on with a bunch of falsehoods on a day when Mason fans should be allowed to be excited. It's a major step forward for our program and one 99.9 percent of our fans have wanted for some time.

Much respect for the A-10 programs. Believe me when I say we all know our players and coaches are gonna have to bring a new level of intensity starting next season ... no more sleepwalking through games and expecting to win.
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Welcome to the A-10 GMU! I have enjoyed watching UD and GMU play the last several seasons.
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Not speaking for my Mason brethren, but I honestly don't think you'll see much ripping from our end. We have a couple noteworthy trolls, as do most schools, but we're generally not overly combative.

I just didn't think it was right to have a VCU "fan" going on and on with a bunch of falsehoods on a day when Mason fans should be allowed to be excited. It's a major step forward for our program and one 99.9 percent of our fans have wanted for some time.

Much respect for the A-10 programs. Believe me when I say we all know our players and coaches are gonna have to bring a new level of intensity starting next season ... no more sleepwalking through games and expecting to win.
I know that GW and GMU will, or should, turn into a great local rivalry. I am already dreading the inevitable Eric Copes career game against us next year (see, Davis, Trey from UMASS).

For what it's worth, GW chaired the realignment committee and was the only school with 2 votes (because our AD chaired it, so he and the President each had a vote, or something like that). I am sure GW pushed very hard for this to happen.
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No we won't. Our administration was trying to sent themselves up for a potential conference move last I heard. Mainly due to the concern of the A10 falling apart. We wouldn't be lobbying for GMU. Not with the way they decided athletics wasn't important last year when the A10 offer came up. They let Larranaga go for a pathetic coach who won't cut it in the A10. Hell he can't cut it in a weak CAA. The GMU president doesn't even care about athletics. Why would VCU ever lobbying for a school that's not committed to athletics? Horrible decision by the A10. Every program here has been dedicated to its athletics. Yes, even U of R. No Moliva this move had nothing to do with VCU. This was all the commissioner.
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Interesting move. Best the league be proactive than reactive. Probably a recognition that the A-10 will lose another team or three - no one is even sure if UMass is long for the league.

Wonder if this means the A-10 views Richmond as a more likely candidate for the NBE instead of Dayton. GMU would be a suitable replacement that gives VCU and GW a nearby rival.

I just can't see the NBE holding at 10. fewer opps to get at-large bids, especially when you have to play 18 conference games and forego two extra chances to schedule noncon wins to buff up the resume.

If the A-10 were to add another school, I would probably favor Siena, especially if it becomes clear the league will lose Dayton and SLU. Best to keep the league in a tighter geographical pattern along the East Coast.
I wouldn't be thrilled with Siena. There are still better programs, it would seem, in better markets. And expanding the geographic area helps with TV contracts and recruiting (not only athletes but students).
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Well GMU was 2-0 against the A-10 so far this season. But maybe we'll see you Wednesday or in April.
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Can we add Florida Gulf Coast? That program is going to blow up after this run and location makes it a very desirable place for students to go to school. I'm sure enrollment will soar. I can see them eventually becoming a high-major in not too long. If they can start getting A-10 level talent they will compete in this league. I think its something the A-10 should try to jump on. Other than that Davidson is at the top of my list followed by Siena and I don't think you even consider any other schools.
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Old 03-24-2013, 10:02 PM   #85 (permalink)
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I really can't believe we're stopping at 13, so whose the 14th team? Wichita State would be great, but if SLU and Dayton are going, they'll never come. Just as long as it's not that crappy Northeastern team I'll be happy.
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I know that GW and GMU will, or should, turn into a great local rivalry. I am already dreading the inevitable Eric Copes career game against us next year (see, Davis, Trey from UMASS).

For what it's worth, GW chaired the realignment committee and was the only school with 2 votes (because our AD chaired it, so he and the President each had a vote, or something like that). I am sure GW pushed very hard for this to happen.
I'm looking forward to a home-and-home with GW more than any other A-10 matchup, if only because it brings back memories of some fierce matchups with GW when I was an undergrad in the early 90s. Loved going to the Smith Center and trading good-natured barbs with GW fans.

I know many GW fans have long thought our school inferior (academics, commuter school, etc.), but that perception is changing rapidly. Glad that there's an opportunity for our athletic programs to step it up and hopefully shine some light on the significant improvements we've made to our campus.
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Don't worry. I pulled a "Rambunctious Rowdy" when we added VCU.

It's a part of hazing our inductees.
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If we have 14 teams in 2013-2014, will we go back to the pod system?

Logical pod for Richmond would be GMU, GW, and VCU. I'd love seeing my beloved spiders at the Patriot Center.
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This move was made out of necessity. It was a pre-emptive strike against the CAA to keep Tom Yeager from getting any ideas about going after VCU, Richmond and GW......especially if St. Louis and Dayton leave. You've gotta be quick on the draw with this conference realignment stuff......especially as the pool of desirable schools shrinks. I'm surprised that more of you don't understand this process. Of course fans will always have inflated egos about where their favorite schools or conference stands in the grand scheme of things. This was a brilliant move by the A-10 that will eventually pay off in spades. You won't have the depth or breadth of what you currently have..........but you'll still get multiple bids and solidify yourselves as the 2nd best non-football conference in the East for the foreseeable future.
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Is this league writing off SLU and Dayton? It sure seems like it. We lose the top three programs in the league, two of which were in the Midwest and had rivalries with SLU, and adds GMU?? Maybe other additions will happen, but the message the league is sending is that it is indifferent to Dayton and SLU leaving.
I acknowledge there is zero the A-10 can do if the Big East comes calling for SLU and UD. There are no additions to this league that can change that. However if they don't try and add another school in the Midwest SLU may leave for a lesser league than the Big East. Maybe that is the outcome the A-10 desires.
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