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Old 03-08-2015, 04:54 PM   #121 (permalink)
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I guess the next question is, who else wouldn't mind seeing their coach canned?

I've counted Lasalle, St. Joe, SLU, Mason, and Fordham fans in this thread.
Kellogg has 4 years left on his contract I believe, so it's not going to happen anytime soon, but 5 losses in their last 6 games has pushed many UMass fans to wish we had a different coach asap. The losses are not the problem, they are just a symptom of the mess that this team is under Kellogg. Chaz Williams elevated the last three seasons to respectability and made it easy for many of us to ignore the flaws that are now pretty clear.

For the last 3-4 years Kellogg has recruited players and installed a system designed to increase tempo. The full-court press has a negative effect, it does not cause turnovers, but it does give up easy baskets. During A10 play UMass is 3rd worst in opponent turnover %. While the team full of athletes he's assembled cannot make shots (under 30% from 3pt, tied for 3rd worst) and turns the ball over at a very high rate (3rd worst). UMass has no idea how, or lacks the ability, to effectively attack a zone defense, any zone defense.

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Kellogg has 4 years left on his contract I believe, so it's not going to happen anytime soon, but 5 losses in their last 6 games has pushed many UMass fans to wish we had a different coach asap. The losses are not the problem, they are just a symptom of the mess that this team is under Kellogg. Chaz Williams elevated the last three seasons to respectability and made it easy for many of us to ignore the flaws that are now pretty clear.

For the last 3-4 years Kellogg has recruited players and installed a system designed to increase tempo. The full-court press has a negative effect, it does not cause turnovers, but it does give up easy baskets. During A10 play UMass is 3rd worst in opponent turnover %. While the team full of athletes he's assembled cannot make shots (under 30% from 3pt, tied for 3rd worst) and turns the ball over at a very high rate (3rd worst). UMass has no idea how, or lacks the ability, to effectively attack a zone defense, any zone defense.
At least Kellogg recruits athletes. Wooden's 1st rule. Martelli recruits non-athletes who cannot shoot.
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At least Kellogg recruits athletes. Wooden's 1st rule. Martelli recruits non-athletes who cannot shoot.
I'd definitely say we've gotten a number of athletes. Not necessarily enough or at the right positions, but we've had some.
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^ Bembry, Galloway and Roberts were terrible, not one of them could shoot or were athletic.
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Demery is an athlete, Brown is an athlete, Chris Wilson is definitely an athlete...

(not a PG or an overly effective basketball player, but the kid is athletic--doesn't mean quick or speedy or able to dribble with both hands)
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At this point, there aren't enough Tucks Medicated Pads in the world to cool off Hewitt's scalded anus.
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What I don't understand is how bad coaches are able to convince good players to commit to a school. I.E. how on earth did Hewitt get Thompson to come to GMU? How did Pecora get Pascall (I'm assuming Sengfelder didn't have a ton of options)?
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What I don't understand is how bad coaches are able to convince good players to commit to a school. I.E. how on earth did Hewitt get Thompson to come to GMU? How did Pecora get Pascall (I'm assuming Sengfelder didn't have a ton of options)?
I'm pretty sure Hewitt sent a tractor to Thompson's parents in Jamaica.
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What I don't understand is how bad coaches are able to convince good players to commit to a school. I.E. how on earth did Hewitt get Thompson to come to GMU? How did Pecora get Pascall (I'm assuming Sengfelder didn't have a ton of options)?
Paschall committed as a junior. He and his family liked the proximity to home, the academics and the level of play (conference). Unique situation.

Correct on Sengfelder.
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Kellogg has 4 years left on his contract I believe, so it's not going to happen anytime soon, but 5 losses in their last 6 games has pushed many UMass fans to wish we had a different coach asap. The losses are not the problem, they are just a symptom of the mess that this team is under Kellogg. Chaz Williams elevated the last three seasons to respectability and made it easy for many of us to ignore the flaws that are now pretty clear.

For the last 3-4 years Kellogg has recruited players and installed a system designed to increase tempo. The full-court press has a negative effect, it does not cause turnovers, but it does give up easy baskets. During A10 play UMass is 3rd worst in opponent turnover %. While the team full of athletes he's assembled cannot make shots (under 30% from 3pt, tied for 3rd worst) and turns the ball over at a very high rate (3rd worst). UMass has no idea how, or lacks the ability, to effectively attack a zone defense, any zone defense.
I'm overrating a small sample, but having watched UMASS in person two days ago, the biggest problem defensively for them was the freshmen. Donte Clark was absolutely horrible - didn't run through screens, didn't get out on shooters, didn't stop penetration. GW kind of abused him.

Dyson was also a real problem defensively for them (I thikn he's a soph but didn't play much last year), and Anderson and the other freshmen (Coleman was it?) also had trouble. (Davis didn't play much defense either, beyond hand-checking, which worked until the refs called it a couple of times).

Basically, I think the team's problem on defense is really inexperience, not necessarily coaching. This is a rebuilding year for them, but there is some talent.

That said, my feeling on Kellogg as an outsider is mixed. On the one hand, i am not impressed with his style. By getting athletes and letting them run, trap, and chuck, it is kind of high-risk, hgih reward and a recipe to consistently lose to disciplined teams - while also competing with the athletic BCS teams that go uptempo.

But on the positive for him, he's got UMASS to the NCAAs for the first time in 15 years and that's a nice accomplshment. He needs to keep recuiting, but let's see if he can succeed when these athletic freshmen mature.
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I'm overrating a small sample, but having watched UMASS in person two days ago, the biggest problem defensively for them was the freshmen.

Basically, I think the team's problem on defense is really inexperience, not necessarily coaching. This is a rebuilding year for them, but there is some talent.
The pervading thought is that the team pretty much quit on the season after the loss @ VCU, their at-large hopes were gone. Their defense was good, or at least respectable, up to that point. Throughout the season their offense has been the biggest problem, that's a coaching and/or player skill issue. Their offense is just as bad as ever, but now their defense is terrible too, that's an effort issue.
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With UMass, they had a favorable schedule for the first 2/3 of conference play and held serve against URI and UD at home.

Their schedule toughened up late and they lost @URI, @VC U, @G W and home to a hot Richmond team, with a loss to SJU mixed in.
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With UMass, they had a favorable schedule for the first 2/3 of conference play and held serve against URI and UD at home.

Their schedule toughened up late and they lost @URI, @VC U, @G W and home to a hot Richmond team, with a loss to SJU mixed in.
It's more than just the schedule getting tougher. The UMass team that's played these last 6 games is a shell of what took the court vs Dayton, Davidson and URI earlier this year.
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