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Old 01-08-2016, 05:44 PM   #91 (permalink)
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I think that this is emblematic of one of the great sports ironies here in the USA. The northeastern US is probably the most educated part of the country with an abundance of universities per capita, both public and private. Yet, in that part of the country, college sports are a distant afterthought to the professional teams, especially in football. Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Washington and the pygmy cities in between, it's the same deal in all those towns. By contrast, the South is the least educated part of the country with few universities per capita other than big state schools yet down there, college sports is the BFD with most of the professional franchises devoid of any tradition of greatness, notwithstanding the Dallas Cowboys, the San Antonio Spurs and to a much lesser extent, the Miami Dolphins and the Houston Rockets.
I realize that Ohio is a few miles north of the Mason Dixon Line, but you do know that Ohio has 12 public universities with an aggregate enrollment north of 300k, plus a shit load of private universities? Since my daughter is starting her college visits I am finding out that she can get a tremendous education of tOSU all in at $23k annually. I am guessing that your ass hurts after you pulled that statement out of it.
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e - there is a ton of room, but you cannot count any space there are trees however. Nobody in Amherst will allow a tree to be displaced for a football stadium....

They just need to suck this up for 3 more years at Gillette and flatten the old building and put up a 40K seat building. They just built that football performance center and that can still be connected just not in the end-zone any more. They have already set a precedent by dropping millions on their shitty Basketball program performance center (BTW men and women's teams both suck) - so why not spend the money on the shitty football team too?


I have to admit that I am more than shocked that they build the basketball center - it is the only thing they have done a complete first class job on in 20 years. The football performance center is fantastic, but in the bigger picture it is still little more than lipstick on a pig as far as I am concerned. Umass has a history of doing the bare minimum to create the illusion of doing more...
Oh believe me I'm aware of all that - I was just pointing out that calling UMass a "city school" when the conversation was about the problems they have trying to get on campus stadiums is utterly crazy.

The area behind the current stadium can/should be used for new stadium space, and the current stadium as a whole just need to be annihilated.
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I realize that Ohio is a few miles north of the Mason Dixon Line, but you do know that Ohio has 12 public universities with an aggregate enrollment north of 300k, plus a shit load of private universities? Since my daughter is starting her college visits I am finding out that she can get a tremendous education of tOSU all in at $23k annually. I am guessing that your ass hurts after you pulled that statement out of it.
Wow 62. Where did this come from?
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I realize that Ohio is a few miles north of the Mason Dixon Line, but you do know that Ohio has 12 public universities with an aggregate enrollment north of 300k, plus a shit load of private universities? Since my daughter is starting her college visits I am finding out that she can get a tremendous education of tOSU all in at $23k annually. I am guessing that your ass hurts after you pulled that statement out of it.
Most people don't realize there's 12 public Universities in Ohio, because the big one pretentiously demands to be called THE Ohio State University when they are AN Ohio State University.
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On the Toledo website, it says it it one of 14 state universities in Ohio. Whom am I to believe?
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On the Toledo website, it says it it one of 14 state universities in Ohio. Whom am I to believe?
I didn't count schools like Shawnee State and NE Medical School
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Wow 62. Where did this come from?
The Buckeye Vodka (an actual brand) made me do it. I am not a vodka connoiseur, but it's quite good.
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Nothing fires up the Marquette board like a good ol' conference realignment discussion. Especially when it involves bush league mid-major programs such as Dayton and VCU.

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They HATE Dayton....HATE.

This is a good one:

"Except if Dayton was in our conference, they wouldn't be ranked. They would be competing with us for 8th in the conference."

They all said the same thing last year and then we slobber knocked Providence (their 4th place team) back to Rhode Island.
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They HATE Dayton....HATE.

This is a good one:

"Except if Dayton was in our conference, they wouldn't be ranked. They would be competing with us for 8th in the conference."

They all said the same thing last year and then we slobber knocked Providence (their 4th place team) back to Rhode Island.
The hatred is ridiculous. I was a Marquette fan long before I attended VCU (why I still read the boards) but the fan base has a massively inflated view of the program.
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The hatred is ridiculous. I was a Marquette fan long before I attended VCU (why I still read the boards) but the fan base has a massively inflated view of the program.
This. That is their biggest issue.

I mean the comment I quoted above is ludicrous. Would Dayton be competing for first place? Prob not. Nova is such a tough out in the regular season. Xavier has a lock on at least 2nd place. After that, I'd put Dayton up with the Providence, SH and Butler group...and anybody honest about it would say the say thing.

I read a lot of their message boards...the BE that is. I get all the fans love the round robin 10 team lineup. I would too...it makes sense; FROM A FAN PERSPECTIVE. It's perfect, no doubt. But that may not be what the AD's, Presidents, schools are thinking at the same time.

after reading even further, their fan base is so wrong on so many of their Dayton "facts" I wouldn't even know where to start. It's like if you say it over there, well, it must be true.

The list of teams that most of them want IF their is expansion is NEVER going to happen....it's almost like Marq fans have never heard of this sport called "football"??

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This. That is their biggest issue.

I mean the comment I quoted above is ludicrous. Would Dayton be competing for first place? Prob not. Nova is such a tough out in the regular season. Xavier has a lock on at least 2nd place. After that, I'd put Dayton up with the Providence, SH and Butler group...and anybody honest about it would say the say thing.

I read a lot of their message boards...the BE that is. I get all the fans love the round robin 10 team lineup. I would too...it makes sense; FROM A FAN PERSPECTIVE. It's perfect, no doubt. But that may not be what the AD's, Presidents, schools are thinking at the same time.

after reading even further, their fan base is so wrong on so many of their Dayton "facts" I wouldn't even know where to start. It's like if you say it over there, well, it must be true.

The list of teams that most of them want IF their is expansion is NEVER going to happen....it's almost like Marq fans have never heard of this sport called "football"??
Apparently Wichita St. is a more viable candidate than VCU at this point, probably due to its ideal location and high academic ranking. I've seen similar comments on Holy Land.

I'm thinking when the Fox Sports deal is up everyone will be singing a different tune. F*ck it though, because I love the A10.
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Apparently Wichita St. is a more viable candidate than VCU at this point, probably due to its ideal location and high academic ranking. I've seen similar comments on Holy Land.

I'm thinking when the Fox Sports deal is up everyone will be singing a different tune. F*ck it though, because I love the A10.
They will sing a different tune if they can't get more then 4 teams in the tourney on a yearly basis. The tune will get louder if none of those four start making E8 and FF. Money talks, not fans loving a 10 team round robin.

And please, don't anyone come on here and say "Hey, 40% is fantastic". No one cares about percentages of teams...I've never heard anybody in the media mention this...it's almost like talking up the consolation prize. If the BE wants to be mentioned with the like of the B10, ACC, and B12, they need to get 6-7 teams in a year and make Final Fours (the latter stands a good chance of happening this year with Nova or X).
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They will sing a different tune if they can't get more then 4 teams in the tourney on a yearly basis. The tune will get louder if none of those four start making E8 and FF. Money talks, not fans loving a 10 team round robin.

And please, don't anyone come on here and say "Hey, 40% is fantastic". No one cares about percentages of teams...I've never heard anybody in the media mention this...it's almost like talking up the consolation prize. If the BE wants to be mentioned with the like of the B10, ACC, and B12, they need to get 6-7 teams in a year and make Final Fours (the latter stands a good chance of happening this year with Nova or X).
Bingo. I was laughing when I read that portion.

The comments about national relevance are great. I'm sure those Depaul and Creighton have been sending fans to MSG by the busload.

The mid-major bashing shows true denial. "Real power conferences send at least 3-4 teams to the dance every year." "We don't need to poach teams from a mid-major conference like the A10."

Do people even read the sh*t they post? I see this crap on Reddit too. It's almost as if the big sports networks are distorting fan's views of conferences outside the P6...
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They will sing a different tune if they can't get more then 4 teams in the tourney on a yearly basis. The tune will get louder if none of those four start making E8 and FF. Money talks, not fans loving a 10 team round robin.

And please, don't anyone come on here and say "Hey, 40% is fantastic". No one cares about percentages of teams...I've never heard anybody in the media mention this...it's almost like talking up the consolation prize. If the BE wants to be mentioned with the like of the B10, ACC, and B12, they need to get 6-7 teams in a year and make Final Fours (the latter stands a good chance of happening this year with Nova or X).
We're the Sarah Palin of college basketball to the NBE. We're insignificant, but there is a friggin' five page thread dedicated to the Dayton hate. I stopped reading after the second page. Douche Bags.
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