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Old 07-19-2016, 06:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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2016-17 UMass Minutemen

Umass had something yesterday it hasn't had.......... Maybe EVER........ in the Kellogg Era - a full roster for summer practices. 15 healthy guys including the 2 walk-ons. That is reason all by itself so have some optimism about 2016-2017.

It is way too early to make any predictions, but Holloway has lost a considerable amount of weight so far and that is not good for the rest of the league. Regardless of what Umass' record ends up being, a fit Holloway logging 20-30 minuter per game is a load for the other centers in the league to handle.

The clearing house has not been kind to Umass recently, and all the new guys need to still officially qualify by their standards, but it looks promising so far????


I am definitely not on the DK train, but let's be honest I and any others who think he has woefully underwhelmed at his job can have their minds changed instantly if this team performs well while he is still here.
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I am definitely not on the DK train...
Really? Since when?
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Really? Since when?
Circa 2009
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I am excited for the future of the A10, a lot of teams are bringing in really good recruits. It will be interesting to see how UMass does with their recruiting class.
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The Daniel Malone introduction of the 7 new players this year.
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AMHERST – It's not college basketball season yet. But the start of what could be a very fun and interesting year for the University of Massachusetts basketball team got a little closer with the Minutemen's first practice session featuring all 15 of the team's rostered players together on the same court held at the Champions Center Monday.

There's a long way to go yet, but it's worth taking account of where things stand with UMass here in the dead of summer. Here are a few thoughts on Monday's session to keep in mind moving forward:

- It's a full team again. Finally. It's pretty self-evident, but the fact that UMass has 15 players to use in practice makes for a pretty full court. Complete drills. Enough players for not just 5-on-5, but rotating groups. Those aren't things Derek Kellogg had the luxury of working with last season. Over the course of a full season, that should pay off in player development and keeping players fresh.

- We don't know (and won't for a while yet) which freshmen will be eligible. That said about player depth, there's always the chance someone (or multiple ones) will have to sit out the 2016-17 season due to academics. There's no answer to the question about eligibility that's sure to be asked a million times between now and the start of the season, and we don't know for sure when one is coming. So sit tight and relax. The freshmen are in summer school now, so what happens, happens. When the NCAA makes its judgement, UMass will go from there.

- This batch of freshmen will be fun to watch. We've all heard the names and seen the recruiting rankings, but it's still something to actually watch a player in person working with his new teammates. From the early looks of it, this crop does indeed have the talent to be special and should keep fans' attention (not to mention their expectations) on high alert. Let's go through them one by one.
  • DeJon Jarreau: Jarreau has called himself a point guard all along and that was exactly where Kellogg had him playing Monday. He's rail thin, but has the frame to fill out and give the team another lengthy, athletic presence at the 1 spot. Will he start from day one? Fans will clamor for it, but it's still too early to tell. Either way, his future looks incredibly bright.
  • Unique McLean: Unlike Jarreau, McLean has no set position. He's a tweener with tremendous physical gifts and a propensity for show-stopping dunks. How will that translate to carving out a spot in Kellogg's rotation? His future role is definitely the most clouded.
  • Chris Baldwin: There are freshmen who look like freshmen and then there's Chris Baldwin. The Springfield native is a big, physical presence who plays with some violence in the paint. When he attacks the rim for a two-handed dunk, you and everyone else in the gym knows about it. He immediately struck me as looking like former George Washington big man Kevin Larsen out on the floor. UMass could use another banger with a mean streak to go with Rashaan Holloway down in the paint and Baldwin could be just that (and maybe right from the get-go).
  • Brison Gresham: Gresham wore a sleeve on his left knee, but he said before practice that there's nothing wrong with his leg. He's leaner than Baldwin and seemed like he might be more versatile away from the basket. Former Minuteman Maxie Esho was in attendance and said he likes what Gresham brings to the table.
  • Tyrn Flowers: Flowers is a big man the way Raphiael Putney was a big man. That is, you'll find him camped outside the 3-point line putting up long, arching shots. And he sank a few pretty ones on Monday. That stretch-four shooting threat is one the team has lacked since Putney left, so Flowers' development will be one to watch.

- That all said, Luwane Pipkins has been the must-watch newcomer. Word from the team is that Pipkins, the Chicago point guard who sat out last season, has been the most impressive player in summer practices. He goes all out all the time, whether that's running the point, playing defense (his favorite thing to do) or finishing first in team sprints. There was a chance coming in that Pipkins could be overshadowed by the other true freshmen, but he seems determined to not let that happen. Sooner or later, I think he'll force his way into a starting role.

- Donte Clark will be a force offensively. Clark won't be listed as a senior on the roster, but he's the experienced veteran that UMass will need to lead the way this season. And it shows in his offensive game, where Clark is heads and shoulders above his teammates. He got to the rack when he wanted and made outside shots when he pulled up. An All-Atlantic 10 team selection figures to be in the offing for him soon enough.

- Rashaan Holloway is still huge, but he still looks good, too. No, Rashaan Holloway hasn't shed 100 pounds like everyone wanted. He's slimmed down some, which is good and has him moving well, but the important thing is that he gives total effort. Holloway cares about getting better and being dominant and it shows. It was fun watching him bang bodies with Baldwin and Malik Hines, and it'll be fun watching him go up against the Atlantic 10's best.

- Zach Lewis, mystery man. Zach Lewis scored a ton of points on a ton of shots at Canisius. How many scoring opportunities will he get at UMass? It helps his prospects that he showed off the ability to both shoot the 3 and drive to get looks in the paint. Kellogg leans on experience and Lewis has that (both at Canisius and as a practice player all last season), so he figures to get his playing time one way or the other.

- Injuries and other notes Hines and C.J. Anderson, both of whom suffered foot stress fractures last season, ran around without any sign of discomfort ... Rayshawn Miller, last year's walk-on, can really shoot it. He gives the team a very nice practice player ... Joining Esho at practice Monday was Chaz Williams ... The gray team, featuring Zach Lewis, Zach Coleman, Rayshawn Miller, C.J. Anderson and Brison Gresham, won the rotating game of 5-on-5. They got to watch as the maroon and black teams ran sprints.
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UMass to the AAC huh. I would hate to see that happen in the name of football. I like UMass and the adds you mention do not make me excited. I love that VCU is a basketball school and does not have football. It might become a big negative but I have gotten so used to being a basketball school that I like it. I know football brings in big money but I can do without that sport.
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UMass to the AAC huh. I would hate to see that happen in the name of football. I like UMass and the adds you mention do not make me excited. I love that VCU is a basketball school and does not have football. It might become a big negative but I have gotten so used to being a basketball school that I like it. I know football brings in big money but I can do without that sport.
Who knows if and when it will happen and likewise will miss VCU. You are my favorite addition to the A10, being a large public university, large fan base and great basketball. Personally love football as being an almost all day event, tailgating, socializing, the game, fans and students and the band etc.

Must add you guys have a great band with that large trombone section (-:
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I've already lost patience with the FBS upgrade. It is going to screw all other UMass sports.
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I've already lost patience with the FBS upgrade. It is going to screw all other UMass sports.
That remains to be seen even though the odds favor that happening.

I am looking at it this way (for now anyways) ... We have a great class coming in who could (if DK can get his shit together) have a great run. If Umass takes a step backwards in basketball conference, but can kick ass and make the tourney from that space, they can hopefully parlay that to sustain momentum and the top team in whatever conference that ends up being?
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Knobby, feel the same way except not sure how much it will screw other Olympic sports. The women have been doing great and don't see our men's team moving out of CAA lacrosse or hockey out of hockey east and whatever sport/s are in the ECAC.
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Knobby, feel the same way except not sure how much it will screw other Olympic sports. The women have been doing great and don't see our men's team moving out of CAA lacrosse or hockey out of hockey east and whatever sport/s are in the ECAC.
Yea there is that too....


I wish our administration was not as dumb (or greedy) as it was 25 years ago... During and just after Cal, they had the chance to go all in, but instead chose the half-assed route and now we are stuck on this hamster wheel.... very disappointing. We would have buried UConn right then and there....
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Yea there is that too....


I wish our administration was not as dumb (or greedy) as it was 25 years ago... During and just after Cal, they had the chance to go all in, but instead chose the half-assed route and now we are stuck on this hamster wheel.... very disappointing. We would have buried UConn right then and there....
OMG - Nascar Bob was greedy. You don't remember no breaks for season ticket holders or $360 for an 18 game home slated. Where the hell did all that money go for all the NCAA credits, sellout admissions, concession and merchandising.
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OMG - Nascar Bob was greedy. You don't remember no breaks for season ticket holders or $360 for an 18 game home slated. Where the hell did all that money go for all the NCAA credits, sellout admissions, concession and merchandising.
I do remember those days vividly..... That was an open cash register and I think there were a lot of hands in the till. That dumbass thought those days would go on forever. Frankly, I am a little surprised they built the Mullins as quickly as they did.

I also remember having really good season tickets and being asked point blank for a $1,000 "donation" in order to keep my really good seats. They treated long term season ticket holders like shit....
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I'm starting to feel very Charlie Brown to DK's Lucy but I'm getting pretty pumped for the coming season. A friend ran into Holloway the other night and said he looked much fitter. I think Pipkins is going to be a difference maker and Jarreau and Baldwin will by players by conference play. On paper this is the deepest UMass team in 20 years.
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I'm starting to feel very Charlie Brown to DK's Lucy but I'm getting pretty pumped for the coming season. A friend ran into Holloway the other night and said he looked much fitter. I think Pipkins is going to be a difference maker and Jarreau and Baldwin will by players by conference play. On paper this is the deepest UMass team in 20 years.
Will you please write a letter to the governor asking to scale back football? I want the Minutemen to stay with us. UMass and the A10 are like Bruce and Little Stevie.
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