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Old 03-20-2017, 10:39 PM   #136 (permalink)
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He didn't tell the RAF? I thought that was what the post about truth and the internet, and news tomorrow meant...
Wade bailed. He did not tell a soul other than LSU. He met with the team at 3pm to have a end of the season meeting. He did not say a word about leaving. Last I heard was the contract was waiting. He did not tell his staff or our AD. They all found out on twitter. I am moving on because I have a real good feeling right now. I wanted Mike Rhoades last go around due to what is happening at this very moment. Mike has always been a stand up man. I also love his family. Great people. Coach Rhoades is a fine person and coach. Not fake. He is real. That is what I am hanging my hat on and I think this is gonna happen. Gotta move on. Players seem to be sticking together. This was a shock and they sound like they want to adopt that us against the world attitude. If Coach Rhoades is hired I am going to be one happy camper. Just saying. If Mike Rhoades does accept the big question to me is the recruiting class. I have a feeling Wade might take Mayan Kiir. I hope that Silva, Mobley and Batts can be retained. No matter what happens in that regard Mike Rhoades would be a home run in my book.
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Old 03-21-2017, 02:55 AM   #137 (permalink)
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Old 03-21-2017, 04:19 AM   #138 (permalink)
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I haven't read all the news about this yet, but am finding it a little hard to believe that VUC's AD actually learned about this from Twitter. I thought Wade was suppose to be a standup guy.
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With his ties to Clemson, that's the one I worry about. And it's also not just about losing Wade, but losing another top recruiting class in the span of 2 years would be a real blow.
Well, guess I was wrong about lsu. Fuck I'm so pissed right now. Most likely another top recruit class gone, and for what, a bottom feeder sec school??
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Because both teams lose 4 seniors and it is going to take them a couple of years to get back to the level they were at. I am not saying those teams fall to the bottom but they are more vulnerable than years past. Personally I believe college coaches need to cash in when they can. Miller and Wade are looking at slightly down years next year few injuries all of a sudden you are just another coach. Tough business need to move when you can.
Yeah but look at the rebuild he's gonna have at lsu. Fail there, and now you're just "another coach" as you said. This time though, you don't get a shot at a big time school. He could've stayed at VCU and reloaded with the incoming class, succeeded, then leave for a way better job than lsu.
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Because both teams lose 4 seniors and it is going to take them a couple of years to get back to the level they were at. I am not saying those teams fall to the bottom but they are more vulnerable than years past. Personally I believe college coaches need to cash in when they can. Miller and Wade are looking at slightly down years next year few injuries all of a sudden you are just another coach. Tough business need to move when you can.
Some coaches are in situations where they need to cash in when they can, but Will wasn't in that position. I see UD "positioning" Archie similar to Gregg Marshall at WSU, so that if he cashes in it's going to be big.

So Will cashes in at LSU and in 5 years is canned because no one has won at LSU since Shaq and then he finds himself coaching at Cal State Bakersfield in seven years. He was making enough cash at VCU to coach through a down year. Cashing in to go to LSU doesn't make sense at all.

I used to lump Archie and Will together, but not so much anymore. It sounds like Will snuck out of town in the middle of the night. Archie has always resisted the urge to coach at mediocre P5 schools, some not so mediocre. The consensus in Dayton is that he stays. Indiana is still out there but it doesn't seem likely. I haven't been right much this week, so we'll see. If he goes to Indiana he has held true to his desire to be at an elite basketball school.

There are more than a few rumblings / rumors floating around Dayton. One is that it will be announced soon that Archie will cash in again by staying at Dayton. Two, a $100 million renovation of the Arena is planned. This is fact, they just haven't announced the full scope of the renovations. The rumor here is that it is costing out higher than anticipated to get the renovations that they want, and that the feasibility of building a new Arena is now being studied.

There are a lot of reasons for Archie to stay at Dayton, however, what concerns me going forward is Archie's comment that it's "going to be almost impossible for the non P5 to schedule". When this happens the A10 will be the minor leagues for future P5 coaches. I hope that UD's administration knows something that warrants such a huge investment, otherwise UD will have invested solely to host first four and NIT home games.
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Yeah but look at the rebuild he's gonna have at lsu. Fail there, and now you're just "another coach" as you said. This time though, you don't get a shot at a big time school. He could've stayed at VCU and reloaded with the incoming class, succeeded, then leave for a way better job than lsu.
Umass had a great recruiting class how did that work out for Kellogg? Unless you are Kentucky Duke Carolina there are no sure things when it comes to recruiting.

The big issue is it appears he left like a scumbag because one reason I think you move up is that if you fail, which most do, then you made a lot of money and can move back down to the A-10 after taking your shot. Seems Wade burned that bridge bad judgment.
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If what AA posted above is true, and I don't doubt that it is, I hope LSU ends up on the bottom of the SEC. I can't fault a person for leaving for what they perceive to be a better opportunity, but there is a professional way to leave, and Wade did just the opposite.
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If what AA posted above is true, and I don't doubt that it is, I hope LSU ends up on the bottom of the SEC. I can't fault a person for leaving for what they perceive to be a better opportunity, but there is a professional way to leave, and Wade did just the opposite.
It is true. My friend who worked on the contract is the one that texted me. They offered him a boatload too. He did not tell anyone. Everyone found out via twitter and text messages.

Anyway, he left and now VCU needs to get moving. The plane is in the air. My guess is VCU have a coach within 24 hours. My hope is that it is Mike Rhoades.
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I pretty much agree with everything JAF said above.

Archie is a different style coach. He could have come to Dayton and cashed in on the E8 run and headed to Tennessee, ect. He and Sean (along with their dad John) have been very very methodical in their choices. Almost like they have a life plan on how this is going to go and not spur of the moment decision making. I really believe Archie is thinking "I can either land my dream job (which probably consists of 2-3 schools) or stay here and do great things at Dayton". He's fine with either situation. Archie has also mentioned how loyal he is to Dayton on numerous occasions because they took a chance on him at an early age. Now, that doesn't mean he isn't going to leave at some point but he'll give Dayton the benefit of the doubt in the decision and he certainly isn't leaving for Alabama, Penn State or LSU.

Wade obviously took the other route of strike while the iron is hot approach.
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I can't help but wonder if VCU wasn't .8 seconds and on the wrong side of the bubble away from still having their coach this morning.
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List of current A10 coaches who will neither be fired nor leave for another job:

1. Bob McKillop
2. Phil Martelli (though he will probably be coerced into retiring)
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Umass had a great recruiting class how did that work out for Kellogg? Unless you are Kentucky Duke Carolina there are no sure things when it comes to recruiting.

The big issue is it appears he left like a scumbag because one reason I think you move up is that if you fail, which most do, then you made a lot of money and can move back down to the A-10 after taking your shot. Seems Wade burned that bridge bad judgment.
Ok, good point that I didn't really think about. Still, you've got to think he would have more faith in HIS recruits than trying to rebuild an absolute dumpster fire of a program at a school where intramural checkers is more popular than basketball.
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I can't help but wonder if VCU wasn't .8 seconds and on the wrong side of the bubble away from still having their coach this morning.
That's a very valid point. Had we lost those games, we wouldn't have gone dancing and his name isn't the hot topic.
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But for two years we've been told what a genius and awesome guy Will Wade is!
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