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**Porn Player** · 09-25-2012, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Dornado

Unless you get terminated your disciplinary record probably won't follow you anywhere. What I tell employees that I represent is to be 100% honest - I seriously cannot tell you how many times employees get fired because they lie during the investigation and it gives the employer just the excuse they needed to enhance the punishment. What is your disciplinary standard (if that makes sense)? Do they need "just cause" or "proper cause" to fire you? Do you have any previous discipline? Did you punch the guy while you were working or were you off the clock? Any criminal charges?

I have been honest. I'm going to find my 'staff handbook' today and check up on the standard.

No previous discipline, I was actually one of the golden boys that they wanted to become one of the strategic leaders for the future.

I punched him at 2am outside a club, so most definitely off the clock. The evening was not organised by work, however people from work were present.

No criminal charges.

I really don't want the 'investigation' or 'termination' to follow me. There really doesn't seem to be a whole lot of help available on the internet.

**King Joseus** · 09-25-2012, 01:49 AM

How is that even a work issue, other than the fact that you're coworkers?

**Porn Player** · 09-25-2012, 02:00 AM

^ This is exactly what I am trying to ascertain from the company handbook and my contract. I wish I had access to precendent, I doubt this is the first time such an incident has occurred in a business that has over +10,000 employees.

UD40 · 09-25-2012, 11:30 AM

Anyone want to help ref an NFL game next week?

I'm sure it can't be that tough.

Kidd · 09-25-2012, 05:44 PM

Getting rejected after applying for a position that I badly wanted has lit a fire under my lazy bitch-ass. Time to get serious.

**RollWithEm** · 09-25-2012, 05:46 PM

I'm up for a huge promotion that would almost double my salary. I'm putting together my business plan right now. Nerve-racking stuff.

**Hyperion** · 09-25-2012, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porn Player

I have been honest. I'm going to find my 'staff handbook' today and check up on the standard.

No previous discipline, I was actually one of the golden boys that they wanted to become one of the strategic leaders for the future.

I punched him at 2am outside a club, so most definitely off the clock. The evening was not organised by work, however people from work were present.

No criminal charges.

I really don't want the 'investigation' or 'termination' to follow me. There really doesn't seem to be a whole lot of help available on the internet.

I'd request an alternative of submitting a letter of resignation and 2 weeks to find another job. Then tell my direct boss an thank him/her for everything (fake examples of learning yada yada) and then send a company wide email thanking everyone and future contact information.

However, I don't think that this will happen. I think that you'll be put on probation and it will screw up your promotion/bonus this year.

**Knicks4life** · 09-25-2012, 10:08 PM

Great game

**Porn Player** · 09-26-2012, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Hyperion

I'd request an alternative of submitting a letter of resignation and 2 weeks to find another job. Then tell my direct boss an thank him/her for everything (fake examples of learning yada yada) and then send a company wide email thanking everyone and future contact information.

However, I don't think that this will happen. I think that you'll be put on probation and it will screw up your promotion/bonus this year.

This is exactly where I am at right now. It's encouraging to know I am thinking along the right lines.

The company handbook's explicit mention of violence as gross misconduct says on 'company premises' or 'company business' neither of which are applicable in this case. They have another section for 'out of work' offences that could mean dismissal, but again, nothing is a match for what I did.

I think I will argue my case and then ask what the likely outcome is, if it does not look good, I'll offer my resignation.

**RollWithEm** · 09-26-2012, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Porn Player

They have another section for 'out of work' offences that could mean dismissal

What is listed in that section?

**Porn Player** · 09-26-2012, 05:56 AM

Theft from other shops, fraud etc.

**RollWithEm** · 09-26-2012, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Porn Player

Theft from other shops, fraud etc.

So no mention of out-of-workplace violence?

**Porn Player** · 09-26-2012, 06:04 AM

Those are the only explicit examples given.

**RollWithEm** · 09-26-2012, 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porn Player

Those are the only explicit examples given.

You've got to wonder what their interpretation of the "et cetera" will be.

**Porn Player** · 09-26-2012, 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RollWithEm

You've got to wonder what their interpretation of the "et cetera" will be.

The thought hadn't crossed my mind.

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