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**E.H. Munro** · 10-10-2011, 05:25 PM

The Book of the Long Sun isn't so far removed from that, if you look at them Wolfe sneakily does something that slips by most. We the readers are the primitives in the first series, but we become less primitive as the series progresses (and we understand the universe of the Solar Cycle more fully) as the science becomes more accessible to us. I always appreciated that little joke of Wolfe's.

I enjoy The Book of the New Sun the most not for its fantastical treatment of science but because I find Severian more compelling than Patera Silk. The last series, Book of the Short Sun, is, in my opinion, nearly as good as Book of the New Sun, mostly because Silkhorn is a fascinating narrator.

e-monk · 10-10-2011, 07:07 PM

I think it has more to do with his close attention to and manipulation of words in the first cycle - I think he put more work into it and that it's better written than the subsequent cycles

the language in the first cycle is more intricate and more intensive - the whole 'translation of a future language back into our english' trope is at play

he pretty much abandoned that post severian

(btw - nice to have someone to discuss this with, I've come across few Wolfe fans - not sure why he's never quite broken big)

SheriffKilla · 10-11-2011, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by E.H. Munro

Try The First Chronicles of Thomas Covenant by Stephen Donaldson if you haven't read it. There was a Second Chronicles that wasn't the equal of the first and now apparently a third which I haven't even started. But the first three books are as good as it gets in fantasy.

In brief the main character is a leper who finds himself transported to a magical world called only The Land when he's injured and knocked unconscious, only The Land holds a certain amount of danger for him as it teaches him to forget the rules that he needs to live by to survive with leprosy in the real world. The fascinating part is the interplay between the worlds, and how you watch him disintegrating in the real world as he loses his hold on his leprosy.

Gene Wolfe's Wizard Knight books are also bloody good.

I heard a bit of the Donaldson series. I am trying to stick to more modern stuff but people have some praise for him. Anyway didn't realize the character actually had leprosy. Someone mentioned he is a leper and I thought they meant he was an outcast not that he had the actual decease, lol

Some slightly older series also mentioned often are Robin Hobb - Farseer and
Glen Cook - Black Company

e-monk · 10-11-2011, 06:08 AM

Richard Morgan is working on a gritty violent new Sword and Sorcery style series the second book of which is due out today

**E.H. Munro** · 10-11-2011, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SheriffKilla

I heard a bit of the Donaldson series. I am trying to stick to more modern stuff but people have some praise for him. Anyway didn't realize the character actually had leprosy. Someone mentioned he is a leper and I thought they meant he was an outcast not that he had the actual decease, lol

I would hold that anything written in the 80s is relatively modern. In any event it's the leprosy bit that makes it stand out from the regular swords & sorcery stuff. Stephen Lawhead's Song of Albion are more traditional fantasy if you're so inclined.

**ChrisWoj** · 07-19-2012, 01:09 AM

ESPN: These Guys Have All the Fun

The only time I can put it down is when I'm on the clock. I've been reading it on all my down time at home. The ridiculous levels of debauch in Bristol are incredible, the ways they scammed money to get financing early on, the hilarious juvenile behavior of a mid-20s Dan Patrick, Chris Berman talking about how he became who he was (and the way people upstairs couldn't stand his schtick and the way he stood out)... So much cool stuff. I'm only 250 pages in, just hitting around 13 years into the station's history. The next 20 years take up the last 550 pages. Can't imagine it'll be any less compelling.

Check it out, definitely.

Nimreitz · 07-19-2012, 01:47 AM

And now 20 years later there isn't a single person in the world who can take Berman for more than a minute. I remember liking him when I was about 10 though.

**ChrisWoj** · 07-19-2012, 05:14 AM

And yet you remember his schtick. Maybe you're sick of it but the way he calls things, you remember it. Thinking of ESPN in some way is what ESPN wants.

**Geaux Tigers** · 07-19-2012, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Nimreitz

And now 20 years later there isn't a single person in the world who can take Berman for more than a minute. I remember liking him when I was about 10 though.

Chris Berman is the gateway anchor.

**E.H. Munro** · 07-19-2012, 11:50 AM

Wilkie Collins, The Woman in White. Interesting as an artifact of the early mystery genre.

Sent from my iPad using VS Free 'cause I'm a cheap prick and refuse to pay VS for the work I do

Nimreitz · 07-21-2012, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Geaux Tigers

Chris Berman is the gateway anchor.

I really can't imagine young kids like him now.

BACK BACK BACK BACK BACK BACK BACK..... GONE!

"Now let's watch me catch a pass from Dan Marino and go fishing with Don Henley in San Diego"

"Dad, who are those guys?"

"Son, those guys peaked before I was born"

**Porn Player** · 09-22-2012, 01:08 PM

A.M Homes - This Book Will Save Your Life

The book centers around a man that has lost his connection to the 'world'. It was a fun and fast read. Pick it up.

JonMatrix · 11-09-2012, 04:37 PM

Christopher Hayes, Twilight of the Elites: America After Meritocracy

**ChrisWoj** · 11-11-2012, 09:22 AM

The newest Dresden Files will be out in just over two weeks.

I'll be getting it the day it comes out.

**Krstic All-Star** · 11-11-2012, 12:57 PM

^ Same here. I can't wait either. Have you read Charles Stross' Laundry series?

10-10-2011, 05:25 PM	#616 (permalink)
E.H. Munro Baddest Honky Mofo Alive Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 24,281 Rep Power: 21474869	Re: Book(s) Recommendations The Book of the Long Sun isn't so far removed from that, if you look at them Wolfe sneakily does something that slips by most. We the readers are the primitives in the first series, but we become less primitive as the series progresses (and we understand the universe of the Solar Cycle more fully) as the science becomes more accessible to us. I always appreciated that little joke of Wolfe's. I enjoy The Book of the New Sun the most not for its fantastical treatment of science but because I find Severian more compelling than Patera Silk. The last series, Book of the Short Sun, is, in my opinion, nearly as good as Book of the New Sun, mostly because Silkhorn is a fascinating narrator. __________________ If everyone loves you you're doing it wrong. "Opium is the religion of the masses." Fred Reed The Power of 99 Press "He thinks it's going to be fun being governor. It's only fun being governor of New York if you have money to spend, and I spent it all." Nelson Rockefeller on his successor, Hugh Carey.

10-10-2011, 07:07 PM	#617 (permalink)
e-monk All-Star Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,689 Rep Power: 3274359	Re: Book(s) Recommendations I think it has more to do with his close attention to and manipulation of words in the first cycle - I think he put more work into it and that it's better written than the subsequent cycles the language in the first cycle is more intricate and more intensive - the whole 'translation of a future language back into our english' trope is at play he pretty much abandoned that post severian (btw - nice to have someone to discuss this with, I've come across few Wolfe fans - not sure why he's never quite broken big) Last edited by e-monk; 10-11-2011 at 06:07 AM.

10-11-2011, 06:08 AM	#619 (permalink)
e-monk All-Star Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,689 Rep Power: 3274359	Re: Book(s) Recommendations Richard Morgan is working on a gritty violent new Sword and Sorcery style series the second book of which is due out today

07-19-2012, 01:09 AM	#621 (permalink)
ChrisWoj Restore the Roar Join Date: May 2005 Location: Goshen, Indiana Age: 28 Posts: 4,957 Rep Power: 3089125	Re: Book(s) Recommendations ESPN: These Guys Have All the Fun The only time I can put it down is when I'm on the clock. I've been reading it on all my down time at home. The ridiculous levels of debauch in Bristol are incredible, the ways they scammed money to get financing early on, the hilarious juvenile behavior of a mid-20s Dan Patrick, Chris Berman talking about how he became who he was (and the way people upstairs couldn't stand his schtick and the way he stood out)... So much cool stuff. I'm only 250 pages in, just hitting around 13 years into the station's history. The next 20 years take up the last 550 pages. Can't imagine it'll be any less compelling. Check it out, definitely. __________________ DETROIT! Lets Restore the Roar! We can all to that. check.the.detroit.tigers.forum THE DETROIT TIGERS WILL MAKE THE PLAYOFFS - ChrisWoj [05.30.06] - Midnight_Marauder [05.31.06] - Ghost [05.31.06] - Sixerfanforlife [06.05.06] - Ron Mexico [07.02.06] - Dissonance19 [07.24.06] - bball2223 [08.09.06] OMG MY SIG IS OBSOLETE!

07-19-2012, 01:47 AM	#622 (permalink)
Nimreitz Legend Join Date: May 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 29 Posts: 16,247 Rep Power: 14813408	Re: Book(s) Recommendations And now 20 years later there isn't a single person in the world who can take Berman for more than a minute. I remember liking him when I was about 10 though.

07-19-2012, 05:14 AM	#623 (permalink)
ChrisWoj Restore the Roar Join Date: May 2005 Location: Goshen, Indiana Age: 28 Posts: 4,957 Rep Power: 3089125	Re: Book(s) Recommendations And yet you remember his schtick. Maybe you're sick of it but the way he calls things, you remember it. Thinking of ESPN in some way is what ESPN wants. __________________ DETROIT! Lets Restore the Roar! We can all to that. check.the.detroit.tigers.forum THE DETROIT TIGERS WILL MAKE THE PLAYOFFS - ChrisWoj [05.30.06] - Midnight_Marauder [05.31.06] - Ghost [05.31.06] - Sixerfanforlife [06.05.06] - Ron Mexico [07.02.06] - Dissonance19 [07.24.06] - bball2223 [08.09.06] OMG MY SIG IS OBSOLETE!

07-19-2012, 11:50 AM	#625 (permalink)
E.H. Munro Baddest Honky Mofo Alive Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 24,281 Rep Power: 21474869	Re: Book(s) Recommendations Wilkie Collins, The Woman in White. Interesting as an artifact of the early mystery genre. Sent from my iPad using VS Free 'cause I'm a cheap prick and refuse to pay VS for the work I do __________________ If everyone loves you you're doing it wrong. "Opium is the religion of the masses." Fred Reed The Power of 99 Press "He thinks it's going to be fun being governor. It's only fun being governor of New York if you have money to spend, and I spent it all." Nelson Rockefeller on his successor, Hugh Carey.

09-22-2012, 01:08 PM	#627 (permalink)
Porn Player Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Jolly Ingerland.. Age: 25 Posts: 26,089 Rep Power: 21474873	Re: Book(s) Recommendations A.M Homes - This Book Will Save Your Life The book centers around a man that has lost his connection to the 'world'. It was a fun and fast read. Pick it up. __________________

11-09-2012, 04:37 PM	#628 (permalink)
JonMatrix Veteran Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,171 Rep Power: 933842	Re: Book(s) Recommendations Christopher Hayes, Twilight of the Elites: America After Meritocracy __________________ "I'm from America,our names don't mean ---- here"-Bruce Willis in Pulp Fiction Never underestimate the ability of stupid people in large groups.

11-11-2012, 09:22 AM	#629 (permalink)
ChrisWoj Restore the Roar Join Date: May 2005 Location: Goshen, Indiana Age: 28 Posts: 4,957 Rep Power: 3089125	Re: Book(s) Recommendations The newest Dresden Files will be out in just over two weeks. I'll be getting it the day it comes out. __________________ DETROIT! Lets Restore the Roar! We can all to that. check.the.detroit.tigers.forum THE DETROIT TIGERS WILL MAKE THE PLAYOFFS - ChrisWoj [05.30.06] - Midnight_Marauder [05.31.06] - Ghost [05.31.06] - Sixerfanforlife [06.05.06] - Ron Mexico [07.02.06] - Dissonance19 [07.24.06] - bball2223 [08.09.06] OMG MY SIG IS OBSOLETE!

11-11-2012, 12:57 PM	#630 (permalink)
Krstic All-Star Legal Smeagol Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Unemployed, in Greenland?!? Age: 34 Posts: 30,662 Rep Power: 19240053	Re: Book(s) Recommendations ^ Same here. I can't wait either. Have you read Charles Stross' Laundry series? __________________ LIPA delenda est

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