View Poll Results: How far will the sequal go?
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29.63% |
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Lottery
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9.88% |
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03-02-2005, 05:46 PM
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#46 (permalink)
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Re: Walker and Pierce
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Originally Posted by sboydell
so I'm guessin boston fans think the heat will drop to #2??
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Not necessarilly. I know it's hard to believe, but I don't speak for the entire Boston fan-base. Someone mentioned the Celtics matching up with the Heat very well and it went from there.
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03-02-2005, 09:36 PM
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#47 (permalink)
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Re: Walker and Pierce
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Originally Posted by gian
Well, December 21, 2004 Miami vs. Boston.. Dwyane's statline
33 pts, 11 ast, 4 reb, 4 stl, 2 blk 11/20 FG, 11/13 FT
I'll dig up some more when I get back from school.
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that was straight up against Payton. Wade won't ever put up 33 on Marcus as the primary defender - maybe Delonte, but not Marcus
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03-03-2005, 12:38 AM
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#48 (permalink)
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Re: Walker and Pierce
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Originally Posted by Celts11
While Banks played only 12 minutes against the 41 that Wade played. This is purely speculation as Doc Rivers doesn't seem to fond of Banks enough to play him a decent amount of minutes. My guess is that Wade would be contained to under 16-18 points if Banks is on him each of his minutes. Plus, you're not factoring the importance of Shaquille O'Neal in terms of drawing defenders creating mismatches. Wade benifets a lot from O'Neal. By the way, I'm in no way "hating" on Wade. Infact, I like his game very much.
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Check out the box score, Shaq didn't play that game.
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03-03-2005, 10:00 AM
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Re: Walker and Pierce
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Originally Posted by Celts11
Marcus Banks can contain Dwayne Wade. Easily.
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03-03-2005, 11:46 AM
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Re: Walker and Pierce
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Originally Posted by gian
Check out the box score, Shaq didn't play that game.
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Unfortunately, for Boston, Payton did.
Look, the Celts have some options against Miami, Ricky D has a good handle (in fact, he carries the ball up court a lot when Delonte's in the game), and can play the point. Meaning that the Celtics can run Ricky and Tony Allen in the backcourt, leaving TA free to terrorise Wade. This isn't to say that Wade will ever be stopped. What you want is for Wade to start shooting and keep shooting by the bushel, while connecting at a Walkeresque pace.
Also, Walker is no longer the second option, he's the third. Pierce and Walker have picked up where they left off, Walker is that good at reading P2. What should worry the other Eastern Conference coaches is Walker potentially developing that sort of chemistry with Davis. When Walker and Davis are instinctively on the same page Boston will do some serious damage in the half court.
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03-03-2005, 01:00 PM
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Re: Walker and Pierce
Between Marcus Banks, Tony Allen, and Ricky Davis they could hold Wade to under 20ppg in my opinion. Tony Allen is said by many to ALREADY rival Artest on defense and Banks is probably the best defensive point in the league. Ricky is also a very very underated defender...when he wants to give 100% on defense, he'll drive someone batty.
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03-03-2005, 01:07 PM
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#52 (permalink)
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Re: Walker and Pierce
Ok well, ive never liked the celtics... and I really dislike Toine, but don't get me wrong I am extremely excited about having another good team in the east. I really think that the acquisition of walker is gonna really push the celtics into the upper regions of the playoffs this year and in years to come. If they can pick up a good ball distributor pg... maybe a young guy who can be mentored by payton.... one who can drive and kick, or feed people in the post, the celtics will be pretty unstoppable. They dont really need the bigs so much in the east, and they have the perimeter talent. I think they will do well.
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03-03-2005, 02:16 PM
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Re: Walker and Pierce
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Originally Posted by IwishIwasAlilbittalla
maybe a young guy who can be mentored by payton
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Delonte West and Marcus Banks
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.... one who can drive and kick, or feed people in the post
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Tony Allen and Marcus Banks
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They don't really need the bigs so much in the east, and they have the perimeter talent. I think they will do well.
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They have Al Jefferson and Kendrick Perkins as their future big men.
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03-03-2005, 02:28 PM
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Re: Walker and Pierce
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Originally Posted by ehmunro
Unfortunately, for Boston, Payton did.
Look, the Celts have some options against Miami, Ricky D has a good handle (in fact, he carries the ball up court a lot when Delonte's in the game), and can play the point. Meaning that the Celtics can run Ricky and Tony Allen in the backcourt, leaving TA free to terrorise Wade. This isn't to say that Wade will ever be stopped. What you want is for Wade to start shooting and keep shooting by the bushel, while connecting at a Walkeresque pace.
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I can't disagree with that.  I was just supporting my original point that the Celtics won't be a nightmare matchup for the Heat.
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03-03-2005, 03:53 PM
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Re: Walker and Pierce
They are a very good duo
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03-03-2005, 08:40 PM
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Re: Walker and Pierce
I'm not too impressed by this team. I think they should be happy to get past the first round. Pierce nor Walker are as good as they were a few years ago. Their roleplayers are better this time, granted, but i don't see why the Pistons or Heat should be worried (or the Wizard, for that matter).
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03-03-2005, 08:47 PM
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Re: Walker and Pierce
Danny Ainge has done well to breathe some passion back into the green machine.
I love Walker's game and always have. He is really the leader of the team but lets the others think that they are the leaders - and that is an art in itself!
I loved how they took it to the Suns(whom I love, always calling them the C's of the west). Amare had some foul trouble, which explains his absence of "dominance" in that game. 
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03-04-2005, 01:35 AM
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