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04-02-2005, 07:08 PM
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Re: Offseason to-do's
Good point, Even thought I think his defense is above average and makes good descisions {most of the time} I dont think he plays enough to make up for tiny errors he may make in games. I also used to not like marcus but definatly think he should be our guard for the future. I think the key is having just marcus and delonte next year so they know they are going to play and are confident and make big strides of improvment. Both promising players.
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04-02-2005, 09:13 PM
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Re: 2005 Celtics Offseason/Draft Discussion Thread
I still think we draft a PG....even if we re-sign Gary (which I think we SHOULD), I don't think Delonte will ever be a starting PG and even though Marcus is now playing really well he can't be the only one (Gary will only be here 2 more years even if we re-sign him). There is also the fact that even though Marcus is winning us over Doc & Danny have not been crazy about him so they could still get rid of him, but I hope not. The fact is...if we have a shaky position it's PG. Our big man position is way set in my opinion between Raef, Perk, Toine, Al, and Blount.
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04-06-2005, 01:41 PM
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Re: Offseason to-do's
Salim Stoudamire cannot play the point, fellas. We need to hope that Felton or Paul or Williams fall to the pick that the Lakers gave us.
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04-06-2005, 01:45 PM
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Re: Offseason to-do's
we dont have the lakers pick its lotto protected
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04-07-2005, 07:31 AM
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Re: Offseason to-do's
We don't need a starting PG. We have Marcus Banks. We need to bring in a backup.
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04-08-2005, 10:16 AM
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Re: 2005 Celtics Offseason/Draft Discussion Thread
well that depends on whether Payton is going to play another year with this team on if we need another pg. IMO this team needs a SF more than anything else and there should be several decent ones there when we pick, you can always pick up a decent back up point guard in this league. Right now our SF consists of Pierce, and Reed which isn't very deep and TA and Ricky even though they do play some 3 are really not 3's.
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04-08-2005, 12:33 PM
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Re: 2005 Celtics Offseason/Draft Discussion Thread
Danny has always said he takes the best player available and does not pick by position so it may not matter what needs we have.
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04-10-2005, 02:28 PM
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Re: Offseason to-do's
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We don't need a starting PG. We have Marcus Banks. We need to bring in a backup.
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Nonono, Marcus Banks is not a starting PG...that's why the C's traded for Gary Payton in the first place.
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Dammit. Well, we can at least hope a Jarrett Jack falls to our pick (and after his performance against Louisville, he probably will).
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04-10-2005, 02:31 PM
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Re: Offseason to-do's
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Nonono, Marcus Banks is not a starting PG...that's why the C's traded for Gary Payton in the first place.
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Just out of curiosity (again, I love cliches), why do you think Banks cannot become a starting point guard in the present or future? What makes Gary Payton better? Do you think drafting three consecutive first-round point guards would solve our minimal point guard issue?
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04-10-2005, 03:10 PM
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Just out of curiosity (again, I love cliches), why do you think Banks cannot become a starting point guard in the present or future? What makes Gary Payton better? Do you think drafting three consecutive first-round point guards would solve our minimal point guard issue?
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I've seen Banks play a lot, and he just doesn't seem to grasp the nuances of the position.
What makes GP better? Well, his track record, mostly.
I don't see how we've drafted three straight point guards in round 1...neither Allen nor West are PGs (Remember Jameer Nelson and John Lucas?), just undersized 2's.
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04-10-2005, 03:20 PM
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I've seen Banks play a lot, and he just doesn't seem to grasp the nuances of the position.
What makes GP better? Well, his track record, mostly.
I don't see how we've drafted three straight point guards in round 1...neither Allen nor West are PGs (Remember Jameer Nelson and John Lucas?), just undersized 2's.
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I love Banks, so I have to defend him.
I think he has everything you need. He's got great defense, lightening speed, a great passing ability (gets better and better every game), can take it to the hoop, has a nice shot and is a great athlete.
To answer the 3 PG's, 3 drafts question:
2003: Banks
2004: West (Even though he's a PG, I do agree about the 'underzised 2' part)
2005: Unknown Yet.
I'd rather resign Toine and Payton, than draft another PG.
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04-10-2005, 03:26 PM
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I love Banks, so I have to defend him.
I think he has everything you need. He's got great defense, lightening speed, a great passing ability (gets better and better every game), can take it to the hoop, has a nice shot and is a great athlete.
To answer the 3 PG's, 3 drafts question:
2003: Banks
2004: West (Even though he's a PG, I do agree about the 'underzised 2' part)
2005: Unknown Yet.
I'd rather resign Toine and Payton, than draft another PG.
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I don't think he understands the position well enough to be a starter, much less a good one. I'd like to keep him as a backup, though.
I don't see how we can call West a PG yet, either...he wasn't one in college and he wasn't one in the pros until a month ago.
I also heard GP wants out, so we couldn't re-sign him if we tried. That's good though, because he hasn't been all that good since December. I'm also on the fence about re-signing Antoine. I love him to death, but he's too much of a rollercoaster ride for me.
We could theoretically hold off this year and grab Marcus Williams next year. I've heard good things about him.
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04-10-2005, 03:38 PM
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I don't think he understands the position well enough to be a starter, much less a good one. I'd like to keep him as a backup, though.
I don't see how we can call West a PG yet, either...he wasn't one in college and he wasn't one in the pros until a month ago.
I also heard GP wants out, so we couldn't re-sign him if we tried. That's good though, because he hasn't been all that good since December. I'm also on the fence about re-signing Antoine. I love him to death, but he's too much of a rollercoaster ride for me.
We could theoretically hold off this year and grab Marcus Williams next year. I've heard good things about him.
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Ah well, it all comes down to what you expect him to to. If you want him to be a pass-first/pure PG, I do not think he's the guy you're looking for. But that's not bad considering that there's not 5 guys in the whole league who are like that.
West has handled the ball in College, so it's nothing new to him. (Or at least that's what I heard). And he was expected to be the PG for this team since we drafted him.
I don't know why GP would want out though. I mean he had a chance to sign with any team he wanted, but he chose us for some reason.
Personally, I'd like to see what Banks would be able to do, maybe even give Delonte a chance and take a gamble on a 2nd round PG.
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04-10-2005, 03:48 PM
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Ah well, it all comes down to what you expect him to to. If you want him to be a pass-first/pure PG, I do not think he's the guy you're looking for. But that's not bad considering that there's not 5 guys in the whole league who are like that.
West has handled the ball in College, so it's nothing new to him. (Or at least that's what I heard). And he was expected to be the PG for this team since we drafted him.
I don't know why GP would want out though. I mean he had a chance to sign with any team he wanted, but he chose us for some reason.
Personally, I'd like to see what Banks would be able to do, maybe even give Delonte a chance and take a gamble on a 2nd round PG.
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I don't like this idea, though...Banks doesn't strike me as being the kind of PG a legitimate contender would have.
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04-10-2005, 03:52 PM
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