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Why don't you guys see that Pierce is best thing this team has now. I've been a celtics fan for a very long time. I remember getting screwed on a goal tending call against Charlotte and Morning. I remember Reggie Lewis collapsing on the court. I remember Bagley doing all he could to get the celtics out of the first round. And I remember languishing in mediocrity. True we got unlucky with Duncan, and Pitino set us back 3 to 5 years, but we now have an all-star stud at the 3 and a future powerhouse 4 in Pierce and Jefferson. Ricky/Allen/West are the 2's. Jury's still out on Perkins and the 5 spot, and the PG position is not up to par with the rest of the league yet.

But, this is the youngest and most athletic team the celtics have had in years. Also, its the youngest and most athletic and talented team in the Atlantic and conservatively top 6 in the East. Its a great starting point.

I don't agree with some of his shot selection and arguing with the ref's but some of that came from Walker. But give him time in this new system. Jury's still out on Doc as an in-game coach, but the more Ainge says he's our coach, Pierce will buy into the system and then we can see what he's made of.

I firmly believe that the Celtics need to keep Pierce and Pierce needs to accept the system he's in and take the next step...MAKE YOUR TEAMATES BETTER. If you saw the Celtics play when everyone was on the same page and played in the system, you'd notice Pierce was incredible. Shot selection was much better, easy layups, quality passes, not over-dribbling, crashing the boards, and not reacting to every little wistle. Give him 1 more year and hopefully he sees all this.

Delontes Herpes

looks like an LA writer is also interested in the pierce for maggette, wilcox, and the #1:

"However, starting a youth movement with no immediate title prospects, insiders say the organization is also open to what was once unthinkable — trading Pierce…. OK, how about to the local hope (Clippers) for Corey Maggette and Chris Wilcox? If it takes a No. 1 on top of that, throw it in, too. Wilcox and the pick are superfluous. Maggette is exciting, a major producer, a gamer and a bargain at $7 million a year but Pierce is a bona fide great player, if one with some growing up to do, and, at 27, just entering his prime. Bringing him home and adding him to their promising young lineup would be dynamite."

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...adlines-sports

i love maggette and this trade is ok, but i'm now less crazy about it...the clippers actually have the 12th pick (not the 8th) and unless we could use this to get paul or marvin williams it's not a great pick. also maggette misses about 15 games almost every year.

#1AntoineWalkerFan

exactly...so theres no point in trading him...he does have some growin up to do but so does most of the young players in the nba...and yes hes still young

Premier

That would be a terrific deal for the Celtics.

Delontes Herpes

i don't know. an underrated quality of pierce (and walker) is that he is very durable, he never misses an extended period of time. maggette hasn't had any significant injuries but he's only play 70 games once in the past 5 years when he played 73 in 03-04. and his last season ended with an injury, you can't be sure that he'll come back 100%. and i'm pretty sure that i read that maggette often is lazy on defense.

other than that, chris wilcox and the draft pick have potential to turn into good things but right now they're not much of anything.

it could be good, it could be bad, right now i think we should just keep pierce though. he's coming off a great regular season and an amazing playoff series that was overshadowed by one bad move coupled with a couple bad calls. and maggette is even one of my top 3 favorite non-celtics in the NBA.

Flava_D

I don't know if this would be selling Pierce short a bit, but how about a return to California (not the clips tho) as he heads to the Oakland/GS Warriors in return for Derick Fisher and JRich - throw ins would be needed to balance it out capwise, but it would be an interesting deal - add a young stud, ready for a new market and a veteran point guard to lead the young guys. ANother possibility that does work under the cap is Pierce heading to Memphis for Jason Williams, Brian Cardinal and Dahntay Jones. It adds a relatively young point guard (who is a headcase - but Doc has seemed to do well with headcases) a hardworking dirty work guy in Cardinal and a below average 2 guard as trade fodder. Personally I like that proposed Clippers deal with Maggette, Wilcox and their pick - but I don't think in any scenario we're going to get true value for Pierce.

Flava_D

Another trade that would work would be Blount and Pierce for AI, Kevin Ollie and Michael Bradley - if we could draft Francisco Garcia and Martell Webster and find an expiring sign and trade for Walker (say Penny Hardaway) we'd have a team built around the style AI likes to play, without someone threatening his masculinity (like a Van Horn, Stackhouse, Glen Robinson, CWeb have done) - I think the rookies would give outside shooting AI loves to have around him - Hardaway gives flexibility to trade for a pg if West and Banks don't develop, Big AL would flourish with a guy like AI drawing double and triple teams - even Raef would benefit. Ricky could find himself in dire straights, but he did show some adjustment in his stye of play this season. It'd be an experiment I think could work and bring green 17

C- Raef - Perk
PF - Big AL - Bradley
SF - Ricky - Webster -
SG - AI - Allen - Garcia
PG - West - Banks - Ollie

IR - Hardaway, Reed, Designated big man

What do y'all think?

Delontes Herpes

if we do that grizzlies deal, i refuse to support the celtics. ever. again. the grizzlies are trying to dump j-will for ANYTHING, we don't need to offer them pierce. and dahntay jones and brian cardinal...those guys SUCK.

as for the golden state deal, NO NO NO. J-Rich is a large step down from pierce, and you can shoot me if derek fisher ever suits up in green.

the philly deal is reasonable, but i don't see why they'd do it, and personally i wouldn't do it either. further, there's no way we can get martell webster AND francisco garcia. and that front court is abysmal.