Air Fly

ok should i change the tmac = overrated to tmac = mr. stats

you cant just keep blaming his team for freaking 8 years now. This year he had all the support he wanted it, arguably top 5 center in the league Yao ming, and some great 3pt shooters on his team, plus the best back up center in the league Mutombo, and dannnnng what happened. He couldnt get out of the playoff first round yet again, and his team got blown out by 40 god damn points in a deciding game 7 against the mav. Is that how great you tmac homers think he is? is that top 2 SG in the league to you guys? unbelievable how overrated this guy is!!! give vince, kobe, and pierce that kind of support and they would've done better job..Tmac is a loser, and no one can change that fact, cuz imo that's the truth

Spriggan

Thanks, Vince Carter fan, for telling us that T-Mac's 30.7 ppg, 7.4 rpg and 6.7 apg averages and lockdown defense on a top 10 player in a 7-game playoff series against the Mavs in the first round this year just wasn't enough.

ehmunro

Pierce's head bandage move is pretty smooth, for what it's worth.

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Air Fly

like i said, great stats with not much impact really..and i mean turning those great stats to wins in the playoff, but all i know is that he aint good enough for that matter. He is not a winner, you all can make excuses for him but the fact i see is that he's a loser hate it or love it.

HB

What makes T-mac any better than Marbury, they both put up good stats but it doesnt do them any good, like Greg Anthony said T-mac is a great talent but needs to show he is a great winner also

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tone wone

after Vince's performance in this years playoffs....you might wanna hold off on the McGrady's a loser crusade...

Vince has only made it out the 1st round once....his team made it to playoffs without him...that says more about Vince than any post can....

I remeber back in 2000 when all the talk was how Vince is the next great one.....someone wet their pants against the Knicks....but I guess that was McGrady's fault too....since he is a looser

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tone wone

I dont know..

maybe the all-star selections...or

the all-nba selections...or

the top 5 finish in MVP voting...

the fact the houston trade 3/5 of their starting 5 to get him...

the fact that Toronto fans still cant stand him...i dont hear Minny fans talking about marbury

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in*tan*gi*bles (greek meaning: plays hard every night) - 1. word used to describe marginally talented and productive basketball players. 2. Last resort when explaining the "value" of said marginally talented and productive player. 3. Shane Battier

Love the Marc Jackson-Jeff Van Gundy combo...
"I've played with guys like Rodmonavic; good enough to keep both teams in the game."~ Jackson during gm 5 commenting as Rodmonavic scores at one end and gives up another layup.

theRockisOurs

And Vince Carter isn't a loser? What has he won? woohoo the 2nd round. Vince Carter is more overrated than Tmac. He is mentally SOFT and in my mind the biggest waste of talent and potential. I don't care what he does in NJ, cause he's not the old Vince. What did he do in the playoffs this year besides shoot 36% and get swept by the Heat. He played horribly. You can't deny that.

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Spriggan

McGrady generally puts up much better overall stats than Marbury, and you can simply tell by watching the two that Tracy is on another level.

And for the record, I think Marbury is highly underrated (for the exact reason you keep mentioning, that their teams usually don't do well in the playoffs, if they even make it), so I don't think he makes a good example.

And look at LeBron. He's on another planet and he hasn't been able to get his team to the playoffs. There's only so much a single player can do. If your team is ****ty, your team is ****ty. Think Duncan or Garnett could get the Hawks to the playoffs? I doubt it. Not without a few crucial personnel changes, at least.

HB

Lol watch the T-mac fans get mad. No one is saying T-mac aint a good player, he is a tremendous player. But fact is he needs to adjust his game so it can relate to more success.

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Spriggan

Gotta love when you smack someone around in an argument and they're reduced to making weak "omg lol stop getting mad" statements.

P-Dub34

Still holding that against him, eh? Well, I don't blame you. Lots of people are. It woulda been swept under the rug if we won Game 7, but we didn't, so that's that.

Although it was a stupid thing to do, granted.

Nobody seems to mention it came on the heels of a 30/8/7/5ish performance the night before and a 20/11/6 job that night.

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