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cgcatsfan · 02-28-2006, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmywolfrey

Perkins couldn't beat out Blount or Jefferson or LaFrentz until the last few weeks before he got hurt. I think Perkins getting the playing time was more to do with Mark Blount's inability to pass the ball, play defense, not commit turnovers or rebound.

Perkins did it for a couple weeks at a good pace (not a great pace). West has done it ever since he got the concussion and missed one game. That was 30 games ago. He has averaged basically 15 points, 5 boards, 5 assists and 1 steal per game..shooting over 50% from the field and 40% 3's and has close to a 3 to 1 assist to turnover ratio.. since then. I do not think perkins put up consistently those types of numbers.

Maybe Perkins hasn't put up those numbers consistently, but then he's only getting about half of the minutes Delonte is. 34 to 18 mpg makes a difference in what you can accomplish. Blount/Jefferson/LaFrentz, versus Dickau/Green/Bynum/Banks as competition for position is slightly tilted in Delonte's favor for ease of winning minutes.

I like them both. Delonte is making a huge difference. But so is Perkins, so I'm with Aqua on this one.

HOWEVER, as Premier so aptly put it, Gomes has been capable from day one and just got his opportunity. And the chemistry of the last few games has been unbelievable.

Nice to have so much nice to say about the youngsters, isn't it???

aquaitious · 02-28-2006, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Causeway

I hear you Aqua but my vote is not becase West is starting - and his competition was weak. It is because he is playing fantastic hoops. And I am not so sure that "Getting a "PG" to perform well is much easier than for a Center."

Either way - it's nice that we are having this debate and have solid players to debate on.

Thanks again Danny!

The reason why I say that it's easier for a PG to perform well is easier because, Delonte West has the ball much more in his hands than Kendrick Perkins does.

aquaitious · 02-28-2006, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmywolfrey

Perkins couldn't beat out Blount or Jefferson or LaFrentz until the last few weeks before he got hurt. I think Perkins getting the playing time was more to do with Mark Blount's inability to pass the ball, play defense, not commit turnovers or rebound.

Perkins did it for a couple weeks at a good pace (not a great pace). West has done it ever since he got the concussion and missed one game. That was 30 games ago. He has averaged basically 15 points, 5 boards, 5 assists and 1 steal per game..shooting over 50% from the field and 40% 3's and has close to a 3 to 1 assist to turnover ratio.. since then. I do not think perkins put up consistently those types of numbers.

Perk beat out all three of those about a month into the season. Then he started to see some consistency in minutes.

Perk may not have given us a double double every night (although before he went down he did record a couple of them, I believe) but his play has been very consistent. He was the best low post defender last year and has only gotten better this year. His offense has come a very long way from where it was.

Don't get me wrong, West has been a big surprise, but he's also played, as mentioned above, two times more per game.

Aznboi812 · 03-01-2006, 08:31 AM

i know this isn't related to the topic, but whats our long winning streak this year?

Jacoby_Ellsbury · 03-01-2006, 12:10 PM

jimmywolfrey · 03-01-2006, 02:51 PM

If Perkins is only playing 18 minutes a game maybe there is a reason? Some games he'll get into foul trouble early which limits his minutes. In the beginning of the season he was behind Blount and LaFrentz. I can not give someone the most improved on the team when he only can play 18 minutes a game. I know he didn't have the 'opportunity' but some of that is on him not just Doc being Doc.

I don't think Delonte had the ball in his hands that much at all before the Ricky Davis trade. He may have brought the ball up the court but usually the play was initiated by Ricky or Pierce. Now that RIcky is gone we have seen what Delonte can do besides play smart and shoot. He can actually create for himself.

Kendrick's emergence due to him not fouling every play is a good sign for the future and I hate arguing between two of the brighter spots on the team this year.

cgcatsfan · 03-02-2006, 09:28 AM

Ah, but at least we have two players worth arguing for!!!

Besides, without debates, we'd have no board!!

OKane730 · 03-03-2006, 06:33 AM

Delonte West, but Pierce is having his best season ever, it's a shame he might not ever win a championship with the Celts, and he defenately wants to stay a Celtic.

**whiterhino** · 03-04-2006, 06:45 AM

I have to go with Perkins. Delonte has done well also but he always had the support of the coaching staff. Perky wasn't given much of a chance and when he got it he seized it IN SPITE of the coaching staff.

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