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Old 03-22-2006, 05:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
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He is currently eighth on the Celtics’ all-time scoring list, 595 points behind seventh-place Bill Russell. He is more than halfway to John Havlicek at No. 1 in less than half the games Hondo played (53 percent of the points in 47 percent of the games).

He is 159 short of his fourth 2,000-point season, a feat accomplished only by Larry Bird in Shamrock history, and is second to Bird in career franchise per-game average, 24.3-23.4. And he’s far from through, having added four-tenths to his career average this season.

“Paul Pierce could end up being the best offensive player this team ever had,” Tommy Heinsohn said with equal amounts of boldness and backing. “And I’ve seen them all.”

A Hall of Famer himself after great careers as both a player and coach, Heinsohn isn’t just looking at the numbers, impressive as they may be. The Celts’ color commentator on FSN cablecasts has made a qualitative analysis as he’s watched Pierce improve his game dramatically over the last two seasons.

“I mean, he’s got an inside game, an outside game, a tweener game - everything,” Heinsohn said. “He’s beating double-teams, triple-teams. And he’s added a new dimension that’s making it easier: He’s got them guessing. He’s making the passes now. When he’s reading the defense, that helps him. He can get the shots he wants instead of having to force the shots.”

Heinsohn is aware that floating such a grand concept of Pierce will cause him to hear some legendary names in rebuttal, but in that he owns the sixth-best average in team history (18.6) and has the eighth-most rebounds, he’s standing on firm Green ground as he speaks.

“Oh, Larry Bird was a great player,” Heinsohn said. “No one would ever dispute that. But this kid’s going to blow by everybody. I mean, if he plays a significant number of years, he’ll be right up there in career numbers. If we’re talking offense, he can do this stuff every night with this ballclub.
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“Bird and Havlicek are up there, and Sam Jones was a great offensive player, too - a great shooter. But he didn’t have the repertoire Paul has. You also have to say the Celtics were doing different things as a team back then. (Bill) Sharman was a great shooter, but a one-dimensional jump shooter behind picks and all that stuff.

“Even Bird, one-on-one, was not as good as this kid. Sam Jones might have been decent one-on-one. Havlicek was a pretty decent one-on-one player. I just think Paul has a chance to be better than all of them when it comes to offense and the total offensive game.”

It’s not like Heinsohn was thinking along these lines a few years ago when Pierce was firing away in Jim O’Brien’s offense and the nice regular-season numbers were lost when New Jersey began throwing extra defenders at him in the postseason. Pierce’s new game can challenge such strategies.

“His ability to pass the ball and read the defense and get other people involved has thwarted any real moves to play defense solely against him,” Heinsohn said.

“And I think he’s having more fun playing the game this way now, which means he’s going to do it more. See, what he’s doing now is playing basketball, not just scoring. And he’s what he wanted to be two years ago, which is a leader. So he’s having the most fun he’s ever had playing basketball right now.”

And now Heinsohn’s having some fun comparing Pierce to the others in the Celtics pantheon.
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Old 03-22-2006, 06:52 AM   #2 (permalink)
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That's some serious props from a Celtic legend.
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Re: The Ultimate Tommy Point: Pierce Could Be Best Celtic

I think Tommy has already called Pierce the best scorer to ever play for the Celtics. For me, the change in terms is just as significant as the compliment.
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Re: The Ultimate Tommy Point: Pierce Could Be Best Celtic

Didn't Bill Russell say that Pierce was one of the best players to come along in the past decade? I think that's what it was. It's obvious Pierce is as good as Tom is putting him up to be. It doesn't suprise me at all.
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the BEST player in Celtics history? I don't that will happen.
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the BEST player in Celtics history? I don't that will happen.
Maybe not in the hearts of Boston sports fans, but on the stat sheet, Pierce could very well be the best Celtic player of all time.
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what? somethin' smells. smells like bull****.
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Old 03-22-2006, 01:31 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Re: The Ultimate Tommy Point: Pierce Could Be Best Celtic

Best OFFENSIVE player possibly, maybe even positively if we keep him here (which I hope we do) but in order to be mentioned with Bird and Russel and Havlicek he will have to hang a banner at some point in his esteemed career. I for one hope he does.
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not w/o sufficient help he won't. And a coach who doesn't coach like a SPED 1st grader who got drunk.
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Maybe not in the hearts of Boston sports fans, but on the stat sheet, Pierce could very well be the best Celtic player of all time.
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Re: The Ultimate Tommy Point: Pierce Could Be Best Celtic

Once the young talent developes, he'll become that much better. His prime might even be stretched out some because of them. Can't wait to see what happens with him.
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