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05-06-2006, 06:33 PM
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Re: Gomes Named to All-Rook Second Team
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A coach can not totally control if a player wants to share the ball.
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Right. Kobe can not be commanded to share the ball by Jackson. He's doing it, this series, by his own free will. Basically, this entire season, Kobe Bryant has done everything humanly possible to benefit the Lakers. Los Angeles does not need any more wild scoring eruptions from Kobe anymore, unless they are struggling offensively (fourth quarter of game six). Kwame Brown and Lamar Odom finally get the triangle offense and Kobe is finding them quite easily.
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Meanwhile in another playoff series a guy named James had not problem with a guy named Jones - Jones being not even close to a star - taking and hitting the game winning shot.
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Uh...Larry Hughes made the decision to pass to Damon Jones as he was wide-open.
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LeBron at 21 gets it better than Kobe.
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Yeah, so does Brian Scalabrine, right? I mean, he is a team player.
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05-06-2006, 06:36 PM
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Re: Gomes Named to All-Rook Second Team
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People make it sound like if every other player in the league took as many shots as Kobe then they would all be on his level.
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This point needs to be stressed. Kobe and Gilbert Arenas are the only two players in the league who can carry an offense if need be - still at an efficient rate. Other players' effectiveness would dramatically decrease with constant double-teams and the added fatigue of hoisting up thirty (plus) shots. It's amazing that Kobe is still amazing efficient.
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05-06-2006, 06:49 PM
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Re: Gomes Named to All-Rook Second Team
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Right. Kobe can not be commanded to share the ball by Jackson. He's doing it, this series, by his own free will. Basically, this entire season, Kobe Bryant has done everything humanly possible to benefit the Lakers. Los Angeles does not need any more wild scoring eruptions from Kobe anymore, unless they are struggling offensively (fourth quarter of game six). Kwame Brown and Lamar Odom finally get the triangle offense and Kobe is finding them quite easily.
Uh...Larry Hughes made the decision to pass to Damon Jones as he was wide-open.
Yeah, so does Brian Scalabrine, right? I mean, he is a team player.
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Point is that you were saying the reason Kobe and the Lakers would not get more than 5 shots for Smush was because he missed a few. Yet in Cleveland Jones who's name is not LeBron was given the game winning shot.
And I have no idea what Scabs has to do with this. He has nowhere near the talent of Kobe or Lebron so not sure why you'd compare Scabs to Kobe.
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05-06-2006, 07:43 PM
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Re: Gomes Named to All-Rook Second Team
That is because he was open. Also, Damon Jones hasn't shown any offensive struggle as he hasn't played.
You're essentially arguing that players who play a team game "get it" more than Bryant. What I see, though, is a player who does "get it" and to show this, he forces himself to do anything within his control to make his team win, even when they are playing horribly (see tonight's first half).
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05-06-2006, 08:13 PM
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Re: Gomes Named to All-Rook Second Team
Play about 82 games of pretty much all Kobe all the time - and then you want your teammates to step up in the playoffs? Too late.
And yes players who realize it's a team game do "get it" but that in no way says you should compare Scabs to Kobe. comparing LeBron to Kobe though does make sense. I'll take Bron.
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05-06-2006, 08:37 PM
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Re: Gomes Named to All-Rook Second Team
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comparing LeBron to Kobe though does make sense. I'll take Bron.
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yea...what he said
and comparing Kobe to Nash for MVP...ill take nash
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05-06-2006, 08:40 PM
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Me too.
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05-06-2006, 09:03 PM
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Re: Gomes Named to All-Rook Second Team
I'll take Kobe over either, noting the defensive inabilities of the other players.
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05-06-2006, 10:29 PM
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That second half tonight has to be the ugliest performance by an NBA star in a playoff game. Kobe pretty much said "screw it. I don't want any blame for this mess. I am going to do nothing.". Pathetic.
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05-06-2006, 11:34 PM
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Re: Gomes Named to All-Rook Second Team
absolutely no excuse for taking 3 shots in the 2nd half of a game 7 as a superstar...yea i get on him alot for taking too many shots but this is different...takin too few is just as bad...damn it was sickening watching kwame and walton taking so many shots and kobe not even making an effort
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05-07-2006, 05:34 AM
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Re: Gomes Named to All-Rook Second Team
Kobe sucks.
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05-07-2006, 09:00 AM
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Yeah but don't forget Kobe "gets it" and will do whatever it takes to win. If not he'll just throw his teammates under the bus.
But Kobe DOES have the ability to play defense.
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